...at the same time has the questions asked been of benefit to others on
the list? Yes?
I find that when I turn into the 'teacher role' in my own SBS community
I learn a lot more. It makes me stretch when I have to document 'why' I
do the things I do and recommend. I have to google [oh sorry...msn
search] or the resources and documentation which makes me learn more.
Even with the trolls [the ones that are arguementative trolls but not
the stupid trolls], I find that when I'm arguing my point... I'm backing
it up with documentation of why I think like that. It helps me to
solidify my views.
Sometimes even the dumb questions make you dig back into the foundations
and think.
For me, you lurk, you sit at the feet of the masters and you soak in
with the hopes that some of that grey matter will drip on you.
Active Directory experts aren't just popped out of the ground, right?
And books alone don't cut it right? Some of this [a lot of this] is
BTDT credential based, right?
[BTDT - been there done that - no greater credential in the world]
As a newbie here to this list you will forgive me when I ask the dumb
ones, yes?
<back to lurking .... oh and ....do you guys take paypal? I may be
annoying and ask some more>
Tom Kern wrote:
Am I capable?
Who knows?
I've only been in IT for less than 4 years and I never owned a
computer until 6 years ago.
Everything i learned, i learned from screwing around at
home,books,websites, and most of all, lists like this.
I haven't lied or fluffed up my resume or past in anyway to employers,
so if they are willing to offer me positions, i can only assume i'm
close to capable....
I'm 36yrs old and I have a B.A. in English lit from NYU and as i said,
no computer experience until i was about 30. Before IT, i was in grad
school for english and working as a TA at Boston University.
I'm always upfront to employers about all of this.
They hire me and seem to be pleased.
As to this list being a question sink, i've been a lurker on this list
for 2yrs and i admit i've sent a deluge of questions latlely, but only
about 10% of them have been about my current position.
The other 90% have just been for my own curiosity.
Thats what happens when you don't know anyone else in your field and
no one at your place of employment is that knowldgable either.
If all i have is some software and a book, sometimes i'd like some
human feed back.
I apologixe for using this list as an endless fountain of info and i
promise to stop.
i know how hard you guys work and i'd love to buy you all a beer and a
shot.
As to having someone as experienced as you guys over me, I'd love that!
That would be a dream job to apprentince under someone.
Unfortunately, when being offered a job for some $$$ and with 2 kids
at home, I'm not gonna say, "Thats really nice,but despite what you
think,I'm not really that experienced and the fact that after 2 months
of consulting you haven't noticed that, gives me some pause, so I'm
gonna go somewhere else where i can work under someone who knows AD
and can teach me all i want so i can at the very least leave those
poor guys on the activedir list alone...".
I guess if i were in my 20's that would work but right now i can't say no.
As to leaving you guys be, I'll do my best.
I'm sorry for all the questions.
I'll relax a bit.
Thanks for everything!
On 10/13/05, *Brian Desmond* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
*Just a thought for you – Are you really capable of being the lead
engineer in the situation your client and potential employer is
in? This list has been a major question sink for you, and I think
several of us have worked very hard answering all these questions.
One thing you might find from a career & knowledge development
perspective is that you would really benefit from working under
someone who has the in-depth operations experience and AD
knowledge that some of us have here. This list has been your
substitute for that person in my opinion. *
* *
**Thanks,***
**Brian Desmond***
** [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
**c - 312.731.3132**
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] *On Behalf Of *Tom Kern
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:37 PM
*To:* activedirectory
*Subject:* [ActiveDir] salary(OT)
well, i've been consulting for 2 months full time for a company
and now they want to make me an offer to work for them(yeah,i'm
amazed too..)
At first it was a head/senior AD position but now they want to
throw in Exchange in the mix.
they used to outsource all their windows infrastructure and during
my tenure there, they took it back so they have no AD/Exchange
people.
This is a 3000 user finanical corp in Manhattan.
my question is, what kind of salary would one expect for a such a
position, taking into account the bussiness and location and size.
thanks
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