Depends on the model. We've got some low end Dell stuff for external DNS (PowerEdge 800s) where i'm not too bothered if it dies, and the build quality is less than the normal Dell server standard (there's an open statement!).
As for the cables, they're the same no matter what so they're just as easy to knock out, but with the drives held in a decent cage on some of these servers that steers the connectors away from where your hands usually go when fitting stuff it isn't as bad as it could be. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Noah Eiger Sent: Mon 07/11/2005 17:22 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions Ok, Sue, you know that when you leave a dangling diss like that someone is going to ask you to support it ;-) Beyond the connectors coming undone (something I have not experienced with Dell desktop SATA), do you have specific criticisms about the Dell towers? Thanks -- we are about to buy several of them (and rack-mounted too). -- nme -----Original Message----- From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions <Stupid blonde alert> I personally have SATA experience in the tower/desktop world but none in the rack units. Are the physical connections any stronger in the rack world? I like SCSI and IDE not only for their proven track record [server and desktop respectively] but because the dang cables don't get knocked off each time I reach into the case. Those cable connections on the back of the SATA drives are a little worrying. I've accidentally bumped the connection off my workstation at home twice while adding the Happauge card and what not. In SBSland early on we had issues with them getting loaded up, if they are underpowered, we're seeing a bit of bottlenecks, and as one of the SBS support gang said out of Mothership Los Colinas, if your vendor won't guarantee that equipment for 3 years, do you really want to put that data on that device? So far the SATAs that we have running around in SBSland servers are okay, but I'll report back in another 2 years and let you know. I can't speak for the Dell rack stuff, but the Dell tower stuff...lemme just say I'm glad Brian steered me towards HP. Rob MOIR wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick >> Sent: 07 November 2005 15:13 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hardware Suggestions >> > > >> Bottom line, I would guess that two HP 360's (SCSI; I haven't >> been made comfortable with SATA reliability yet) or 140's >> with 1GB of memory each would be more than needed based on >> those parameters. >> > > I'm glad to hear someone else say this. SATA can work but you need to > look closely at what you're buying and what the manufacturer recommends. > If the manufacturer doesn't trust their own products for the sort of > 24*7 hammering you often get in a server then why bet against them? Who > are we to assume we know a product better than the people who designed > and built it? > > >> If you virtualize anything on top of that, >> some other considerations would be needed of course. (or Dell >> or IBM equivalent of course). >> > > I'd still personally be uncomfortable with virtualising all my DCs, even > onto different physical virtual server hosts, I just don't believe in > adding extra layers of complexity to fundamental network services if I > can help it. > > -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
