Nope lingering objects and phantoms are very different. Phantoms are expected and purposeful (but probably not something you will generally see), lingering objects are accidental and unexpected (unless you did something bad then you may expect them) and stick right out in the directory when present. Phantoms help you, lingering objects hurt you. Maybe Dean will swing by with a good overview of phantoms. I won't talk about phantoms much if I know Dean is in range, he loves the IM and Phantoms almost as much as he loves DNS. :o)
 
As for repadmin /lingeringobjects. Try this
 
repadmin /experthelp
 
and then scroll down looking at the info under the text
 
"WARNING:
These commands have the potential to break your Active Directory installation,
and should be used only under the expert guidance of Microsoft PSS."
 
 
 
 
RE: the P.S., glad you enjoyed it. I absolutely had a blast myself, by far the best DEC or even the best conference I have ever attended. It will stand out in my memory for a long long time to come. I do think, however, that we can top it next year. Dean and I were speaking with Stuart Kwan about some ideas he had for the next DEC and they were absolutely great, I think people will really appreciate it. I have to say that people should sign up early next year for DEC though because they may have to cut off the ticket sales; start planning now so you don't have issues getting the approval then.
 
The sheer amount of talent and knowledge running around the halls during the event is amazing. If someone had an AD question they couldn't get answered, I think they were in the minority. Also the talent to smarmy ratio is quite good. At a lot of conferences, you get that sort of slimey feeling from various folks who just want to collect your business cards and then glom all over you, you don't get that feeling anywhere near as much at DEC as in some settings. Even when NetPro did the near obligatory "who we are and what we do" which they are completely entitled to doing at the beginning of conference it was informative and humourous and I thoroughly enjoyed it as I think it set a great tone for the whole week. Kudos again to the folks at NetPro and everyone who presented and attended.
 
  joe
 
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Lingering Objects

Hi joe,

    Two questions:

 

-          Are “lingering objects” the same as “phantom objects”?

-          The help for repadmin on my 2003/SP1 DCs doesn’t indicate a “/removelingeringobjects” option.  What version do you have that lets you do this?

 

Thanks!

 

Mike Thommes

 

Ps.  Had a good time at DEC2006; the collection of brainpower there was awesome!

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Lingering Objects

 

You will probably want to look at repadmin /removelingeringobjects, you can find it listed in the expert help of repadmin.

 

I have a utility up on my website that can help find lingering objects as well, including some that repadmin won't find[1]. It is called GCCHK.

 

http://www.joeware.net/win/free/tools/gcchk.htm

 

 

   joe

 

 

[1] When Jorge' comes back he can speak to this, he has been playing with it quite a bit.

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Lingering Objects


I have many problems with lingering objects. I would like to solve them.
I Recive this message when I use repadmin /showreps:


       

HQSite\DC1 via RPC
objectGuid: 2521a874-d379-4281-8744-4bd34c792026
Last attempt @ 2002-01-21 16:10.54 failed, result 8240:
There is no such object on the server.
Last success @ (never).



I have read this Ms article (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=317097 - Lingering objects prevent Active Directory replication from occurring)

How can I discover with object is that and how to delete it? CAN I find a server that does not have the Object to rehost from?

Does anyone have anything else about this problem? I have many (about 165) dc´s with about 80 GC´s. I have many problems with replication....   The Strict replication Consistency 0 is making things better . but tin some of them the problems remains.


I wait for your help...




Adrião Ferreira Ramos
Superintendência de Tecnologia da Informação
Depto. de Operações e Infra-estrutura - CII
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Re: [ActiveDir] DC Demotion & AD Site Configuration

 

 

 




The whole point of a site is to have a DC in it isn't it? Therefore you should cleanup the unnecessary sites and associate subnets with sites you want them to be a part of. The DC locator will only do its job correctly if DNS is right. DNS will be correct if you maintain a nice sites and services plan and clean up all other unnecessary records in DNS.
 
In my opinion "a" is the way to go.
 
M@


On 30/03/06, James Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey guys,
Single Windows 2003 Domain.
I have 5 core sites and 70 branch offices. Each of the core sites host 2 x dc's and each branch office has a DC.
The design is legacy from NT4 whereby we had a BDC at each of the branch offices as they had slow WAN links at the time. During the upgrade, each of the BDC's were made dc's. Each dc is located in it's own AD Site & IP Subnet defined.
Our concerns are that some of these remote dc's are located in insecure environments, i.e the are just a server sat in an unlocked closet in a business office environment.
We've just completed an WAN upgrade and our links are minimum of 1mb to each of the remote offices.
This is good news for us, as we can now demote most of the remote dc's (about 60 of them)
My question is regarding the cleanup process. We have 75 AD Sites created with a subnet assigned to each site. Once the demotion process takes place, will I need to
a) add the IP subnet to the core site so that the branch office is serviced by the dc's located there and then delete the old AD Site which no longer holds a dc.
b) leave the AD site in existance with the IP Subnet assigned and let the DC locator service find a DC for the client to authenticate to? (this means I am left with a load of un-needed Sites in AD..I assume)
We also use DFS but moving to DFS-R shortly.
Thoughts anyone?
Jim

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