While Calendra Directory Manager does support the Workflow of provisioning
it is a bear to install and setup correctly.

We attempted a POC with three BMC people on-site and in four days we could
not get the product installed correctly. After that we decided to develop
our own internal tool which mimics the legacy Control/SA Workflow tool.

Chris Ryan
The Kroger Company
Corporate Information Security
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I have a fair amount of experience with Active Roles.  Although it helps
our company with our AD delegation and permissions, we are looking at a
separate product for identity management and workflow provisioning.
For these purposes you are looking for "supports workflow approval, self
service and Meta Directory services" I would say it supports self service
and delegation mostly.

Candace

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] [OT]Identity Access Mangement

You two need a room ? :)

Mark, can you give more information? I know Quest has something that might
be of interest, but more detail might be needed to better understand. In
the meantime, check out their ActiveRoles product.  There are several
others, but that's one that jumps to mind based on the way you describe it.

MIIS? Hmmm.... did you also get cookies with the kool-aid? Did you feel
really sleepy right after but just attribute it to sugar rush? Did the back
of your neck sting or itch a little when you woke up? ;-)

Don't get me wrong, MIIS has a place, but it can be a real PITA to get
working.  It's a significant investment in time and resources and it's not
well understood in the industry.  I can't begin to count how many
environment I've been in and seen the services running and that's about it.
Some real basic consuming of information and then....nada. Nothing more.

-ajm

On 5/25/06, Carlos Magalhaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  They changed it again (Just checked and you 100% right :))

  C

  Tomasz Onyszko wrote:
  > On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:53:43 +0200, Carlos Magalhaes wrote
  >
  >> Not yet no but we both know thats in the pipe line for SP2. I still
  >> would like to know why MIIS was not an option.C
  >>
  >
  > Workflow is not included in SP2, some solution is planned in Gemini
  time
  > frame
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  > http://www.w2k.pl/ (PL blog)
  > http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek (EN blog)
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