I agree with that. Besides that, my description of the situation is 
probably not as clear as it should be. 

What I am trying to say is that you can only uninstall Exchange by 
choosing 'remove components' when you have the necessary rights at the 
AG. That implies that it then does something to AD, something is being 
changed then.

What I am now trying to get clear is how this differs from not 
installing Exchange but simply only removing the server object from ESM 
without uninstalling Exchange from that server. 

Otherwise said: uninstalling Exchange is not only an action which 
changes things on the local Exchange server itself, I guess the reason 
that network access is needed is because something on the network is 
being changed.

Or am I wrong?

    

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: woensdag, juni 7, 2006 10:04 pm
Onderwerp: Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Uninstalling Exchange - how does this 
modify AD, what alters in AD

> Aren't you removing an item from that AG? Shouldn't you have to 
> have rights
> for that?
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/7/06, Victor W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Yes, according to this article it looks like it. Still 
> wondering why you
> > then need to have to the necessary rights on the Administrative 
> Group in
> > order to uninstall Exchange.
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Al Mulnick
> > *Sent:* woensdag 7 juni 2006 1:24
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Uninstalling Exchange - how does 
> this> modify AD, what alters in AD
> >
> >
> >  In theory, you *could* just remove it from ESM if you believe this
> > article.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=260378
> >
> >
> > On 6/6/06, Victor W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Lately I have been thinking about the following:
> > > What happens actually in Active Directory and what changes in 
> it, while
> > > or after having uninstalled Exchange.
> > >
> > > I am asking this because usually when I uninstall an Exhange 
> server, I
> > > do this according to the KB articles from Microsoft i.e. "Ho w 
> to remove
> > > the first Exhange server".
> > >
> > > After that I insert the Exchange 2003 cd and do a 'remove 
> components'> > (in case of Exchange 2000 I remove it from within 
> Add/Remove Programs in
> > > Control Panel).
> > > After having done that I go into ESM and delete the server 
> object from
> > > there.
> > >
> > > Recently I have had a customer asking me to remove his first 
> Exhange> > server and transfer everything to another Exchange 
> server. So I went along
> > > and followed the KB article up to the point where I had to 
> uninstall> > Exhange. Everything went fine.
> > > After that, before I wanted to uninstall Exchange, I stopped the
> > > Exchange services and left this so for a day, just to be sure 
> kept on
> > > running right without the Exhange services on the old server 
> running.> > This also went fine. I then left the instruction with 
> the customer how
> > > to uninstall Exchange and delete the server object from within 
> ESM. They
> > > want to do something themselves also, they have their own IT 
> department :-).
> > >
> > > Instead of doing that, they simply switched the server off and 
> told me
> > > this a couple of days later.
> > > I offcourse told them that Exchange needed to be uninstalled 
> the way
> > > Microsoft says so but now they want me to somehow prove what 
> will happen if
> > > they do it as they have always done it, simply remove the 
> server object from
> > > within ESM and not uninstalling Exchange from the server at all.
> > > This Exchange Organisation exists of several servers and several
> > > Administrative Groups.
> > >
> > >
> > > I know that in order to uninstall Exchange you need the 
> necessary rights
> > > on the Administrative Group the server is in, so I guess that 
> during the
> > > uninstall, the server 'unties' itself from that Administrative 
> Group.> > But what happens if you dont do this, are you then 
> really stuck with
> > > pieces in AD of the 'not properly uninstalled server'?
> > >
> > > Lets ssay you would not uninstall Exchange but you will remove the
> > > server object from within ESM and then, much later you would 
> bring that same
> > > server, not uninstalled, online again. I guess you could end 
> up with messy
> > > thing then. But I dont think Microsoft says to uninstall 
> Exchange because of
> > > this reason only.
> > >
> > > Is there a program for AD like there is 'Snapshot' for the Windows
> > > registry. A program which creates a 'before' and 'after' picture.
> > >
> > > Or am I now thinking too complex?
> > >
> > > Can anybody who can shed some light on what exactly is altered 
> in AD
> > > when doing an uninstall of an an Exchange server?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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