Slight correction, it should say UNinstalling instead of installing in this section:
"What I am now trying to get clear is how this differs from not installing Exchange but simply only removing the server object from ESM without uninstalling Exchange from that server". ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: donderdag, juni 8, 2006 10:39 am Onderwerp: Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Uninstalling Exchange - how does this modify AD, what alters in AD > I agree with that. Besides that, my description of the situation > is > probably not as clear as it should be. > > What I am trying to say is that you can only uninstall Exchange by > choosing 'remove components' when you have the necessary rights at > the > AG. That implies that it then does something to AD, something is > being > changed then. > > What I am now trying to get clear is how this differs from not > installing Exchange but simply only removing the server object > from ESM > without uninstalling Exchange from that server. > > Otherwise said: uninstalling Exchange is not only an action which > changes things on the local Exchange server itself, I guess the > reason > that network access is needed is because something on the network > is > being changed. > > Or am I wrong? > > > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Datum: woensdag, juni 7, 2006 10:04 pm > Onderwerp: Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Uninstalling Exchange - how does > this > modify AD, what alters in AD > > > Aren't you removing an item from that AG? Shouldn't you have to > > have rights > > for that? > > > > > > > > On 6/7/06, Victor W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, according to this article it looks like it. Still > > wondering why you > > > then need to have to the necessary rights on the > Administrative > > Group in > > > order to uninstall Exchange. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Al Mulnick > > > *Sent:* woensdag 7 juni 2006 1:24 > > > *To:* [email protected] > > > *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Uninstalling Exchange - how > does > > this> modify AD, what alters in AD > > > > > > > > > In theory, you *could* just remove it from ESM if you believe > this> > article. > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=260378 > > > > > > > > > On 6/6/06, Victor W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lately I have been thinking about the following: > > > > What happens actually in Active Directory and what changes > in > > it, while > > > > or after having uninstalled Exchange. > > > > > > > > I am asking this because usually when I uninstall an Exhange > > server, I > > > > do this according to the KB articles from Microsoft i.e. "Ho > w > > to remove > > > > the first Exhange server". > > > > > > > > After that I insert the Exchange 2003 cd and do a 'remove > > components'> > (in case of Exchange 2000 I remove it from within > > Add/Remove Programs in > > > > Control Panel). > > > > After having done that I go into ESM and delete the server > > object from > > > > there. > > > > > > > > Recently I have had a customer asking me to remove his first > > Exhange> > server and transfer everything to another Exchange > > server. So I went along > > > > and followed the KB article up to the point where I had to > > uninstall> > Exhange. Everything went fine. > > > > After that, before I wanted to uninstall Exchange, I stopped the > > > > Exchange services and left this so for a day, just to be > sure > > kept on > > > > running right without the Exhange services on the old server > > running.> > This also went fine. I then left the instruction > with > > the customer how > > > > to uninstall Exchange and delete the server object from > within > > ESM. They > > > > want to do something themselves also, they have their own IT > > department :-). > > > > > > > > Instead of doing that, they simply switched the server off > and > > told me > > > > this a couple of days later. > > > > I offcourse told them that Exchange needed to be uninstalled > > the way > > > > Microsoft says so but now they want me to somehow prove what > > will happen if > > > > they do it as they have always done it, simply remove the > > server object from > > > > within ESM and not uninstalling Exchange from the server at all. > > > > This Exchange Organisation exists of several servers and several > > > > Administrative Groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that in order to uninstall Exchange you need the > > necessary rights > > > > on the Administrative Group the server is in, so I guess > that > > during the > > > > uninstall, the server 'unties' itself from that > Administrative > > Group.> > But what happens if you dont do this, are you then > > really stuck with > > > > pieces in AD of the 'not properly uninstalled server'? > > > > > > > > Lets ssay you would not uninstall Exchange but you will > remove the > > > > server object from within ESM and then, much later you would > > bring that same > > > > server, not uninstalled, online again. I guess you could end > > up with messy > > > > thing then. But I dont think Microsoft says to uninstall > > Exchange because of > > > > this reason only. > > > > > > > > Is there a program for AD like there is 'Snapshot' for the > Windows> > > registry. A program which creates a 'before' and > 'after' picture. > > > > > > > > Or am I now thinking too complex? > > > > > > > > Can anybody who can shed some light on what exactly is > altered > > in AD > > > > when doing an uninstall of an an Exchange server? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx
