Banks are not very good examples. I have worked with several financial institutions and they are some of the slowest to upgrade, patch, and secure environments. The primary reason for a lot of that is cost to implement and cost to support. I expect that if they forced accounts to expire on web access their help desk support costs would go up 80%+. They don't feel a need to do that with customer accounts because of the following point...
 
Your comparison is flawed. You are talking about government documents that I would assume are important to multiple people in the government and not a single person and any loss would impact some portion of the organization, not a single person. On the other hand, the money in the bank protected by your password is all yours and any loss is all yours. The bank doesn't care that your account was cleared out by your son in law or your estranged wife or by you. If they somehow have your password, they are for all intents and purposes *you* to the bank. You have no legs to stand on if your argument is the bank didn't make you change the password...
 
If that reason for not expiring passwords had legs, no one would be expiring passwords and it probably wouldn't even be a feature. As it is, I have heard many hushed rumours about successful information disclosure attacks that hinged on non-expiring passwords. Everything from operating system source code to intellectual property secrets to project plans to product designs to org charts.
 
 
At a minimum what you need to do is go to the folks who own the actual data and will experience the pain and embarrassment if the secured data is compromised and get their security requirements and then implement them. If they don't have security requirements I would recommend having your lawyers looking at your service contract with them to find out what they can sue you for and make sure there is nothing in there about data integrity/quality/security/accurate auditing/etc.
 
  joe
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SHAREPOINT AND EXTERNAL LDAP

HI,
 
I have a SharePoint site for a client, it is driving me crazy because the sales people are telling me that the users for this site, cant have their password expiring. The client is a government agency, so I don't want to be responsible for any information being stolen.
 
How big of a security risk is not having password expiring? it seems  to me like security 101, but the sales guy is saying that banks don't ask you to change your password every X day, good point.
 
 
Something I was thinking is having SharePoint authenticating with their LDAP server, is this possible to do? can anybody point to a url on how to do this?
 
thanks
 
Rezuma

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