I think there should be no comparison between SonicWall & ISA. Bcoz
Sonicwall is having only a few options but ISA is having n number of
Options. Sonicwall is a Common Firewall but ISA is more then that.
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*From:* Albert Duro
*Sent:* Tue 11/14/2006 7:09 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Sonicwall vs ISA (was M$)
Sonicwall vs. ISA?
That's a new one on me. I'm not a SBSer, but I do have a Sonicwall.
Would you care to expand?
thank you
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
> (I would just like to go on record as saying that I thought Brett's post
> was funny)
>
> In the MVP survey this year the final question was "give three words that
> best describe Microsoft?" Boy howdy was that the hardest part of the
> survey to fill out. Three words to describe the "company"? Youch. Think
> about that one for a moment will ya? Ask me to say three words about the
> people of Microsoft and I'd have that survey done in a nanosecond. Ask me
> three words about the "Company" ...this financial entity that files 10Ks
> and like what do you want me to say?
> Microsoft (or M$ or MF$T whatever you'd like to call it) is a company
> registered with the SEC to do business. It is a software company. It is
> an entity. It has a Tax ID number. It has to make sucky decisions due to
> Judges and Lawyers and Patents and EU attorneys and stupid EOLA lawsuits
> and .........
>
> The Employees of Microsoft (no abbreviations)... as was best put by a
> Security MVP.... he went looking for the employees of Microsoft that eat
> babies....you know...the ones he's heard about in those Department of
> Justice/SlashDot postings and all that.... well he can't find them. Every
> one of them he (and I) have ever met are sincere, hardworking, trustworthy
> people. In fact that's one of the wonderful things about the blogs...
> they do a total 'end run' around WagEd/PR stuff and show the people for
> the people. Even when Brett didn't blog.... we knew about him via his
> blog. Just honest people talking to people. And that's when Microsoft
> truly rocks.
>
> I also know that in the newsgroups when I have someone who challenges my
> views I find that ends up happening is not that I'll change them, but I'll
> solidify my views. To those that use M$ knowing full well that it annoys
> you (the generic you, not "you", you), if their goal is to annoy....they
> won't change.
>
> The following items are bound to start arguments/flames etc. in my home
> base community (most of these are specific to SBS, so my apologies)
>
> 1. One nic versus two
> 2. Antivirus choice (with the exception of Norton Yellow Box consumer
> which is nearly universally hated by all in IT)
> 3. Sonicwall versus ISA server
> 4. .local/.lan versus .com
> 5. the lack of inclusion of DFSv2 in SBS 2003 R2
>
> So I guess if you are doing a list of Arguments/Flamewars in this
> community I guess I will say
> 1. The use or non use of M$ :-)
>
> Sometimes you just have to let it roll off your back. :-)
>
> How about a lighter less argumentative topic change: So how about those
> USA elections, 'eh? What's your thoughts about Stem Cell Research?
>
> Laura A. Robinson wrote:
>> Disclaimer #1: "You" in the below refers to a generic "you", not a
>> specific person.
>> Disclaimer #2: My opinions are in no way intended to represent those of
>> my employer. They're my own, and they were my opinions long before I
>> became a Microsoft employee.
>> That said...
>> You know what I find amazing here? It has been clearly expressed that
>> there *are* people who find the term irritating (and I assure you, I'm
>> not the only one; I'm just the only one who states it publicly), yet
>> you're still arguing that because *you* think it's funny, it's therefore
>> okay to use it. Please explain this logic to me. If you meet somebody who
>> asks you not to call him "Tiny" because he hates the nickname, do you
>> make a point to call him "Tiny"? If you do, then you have some serious
>> personal issues. If you don't do that, then why do you think it's okay to
>> continue to justify using a name on a Microsoft-centric list that is
>> populated by Microsoft-centric people that you've been told *is*
>> offensive to some of those people?
>> This isn't about political correctness and it isn't about different
>> senses of humor. It's about somebody having stated flat-out that the "M$"
>> term is offensive to her (and, again, to a lot more people than you
>> realize) and you continuing to assert that it's just fine for you to use
>> it. Some people might consider that incredibly childish and ignorant. Did
>> it never occur to you simply to not use or defend the use of the term,
>> regardless of whether you think I'm oversensitive about it? It certainly
>> occurred to the person who originally posted it to stop using the term,
>> and he didn't have to have an argument that boils down to "I think it's
>> funny, so you need to just get over it" before stating that he wouldn't
>> continue to use the term. I found that very adult of him. I don't,
>> however, find it particularly adult to continue to defend the use of a
>> tasteless, inaccurate, slighting moniker because *you* think it's
>> "funny".
>> Most Microsoft employees are not nearly as well-paid as the public seems
>> to think, and yet, the VAST majority of them contribute their own time
>> and money to charitable organizations. I can give you statistics if you
>> like; Microsoft is actually first in terms of per-capita employee
>> philanthropy. The insistence upon referring to the company as "M$"
>> displays a tremendous amount of ignorance and rudeness to those
>> employees, IMO.
>> Laura
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Bahta,
>> Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2006 8:44 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> Exactly, is exactly right. You cant impose your own humor
>> preferences on someone because you consider it unfunny. You just
>> dont laugh. You can't stop bad jokes, because someone, somewhere
>> is laughing at them. Just not you.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Laura
>> A. Robinson
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2006 8:20 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> Exactly. M$ just isn't funny. Borg, kool-aid, those are funny. M$
>> isn't. Go figure.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
>> *Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2006 7:46 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> Useless Air Farce would not be found funny because its just
>> that, not funny. Funnier is US Chair Force. Thats funny, and
>> people here laugh at it all the time.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
>> *Robert Rutherford
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> ;oP
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> Robert Rutherford
>> QuoStar Solutions Limited
>>
>> T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M: +44
>> (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> W: www.quostar.com
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
>> *Laura A. Robinson
>> *Sent:* 13 November 2006 12:16
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>>
>> There's a reason for the "OT" portion of the subject line, you
>> know. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
>> *Robert Rutherford
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> Can we kill this thread now, please?
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> Robert Rutherford
>> QuoStar Solutions Limited
>>
>> T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M:
>> +44 (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> W: www.quostar.com
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
>> *Laura A. Robinson
>> *Sent:* 13 November 2006 11:31
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>>
>> Clearly there are differing opinions about whether it's
>> merely "slang" or whether it's an inappropriate slur.
>> Simpler just not to use it, don't you think? I mean, I
>> don't refer to the USAF as the "useless air farce" and
>> expect its members to think that's funny.
>>
>>
>> I don't take offense when people refer to Microsoft as
>> "borg" or talk about "drinking the Kool-Aid"; in fact, I
>> have been known to reference both myself. However, I
>> remember the origin of "M$" (unlike, I suspect, some of
>> those who use the phrase and think it's funny), and I
>> think it's ignorant and inappropriate for people to use it
>> on a Microsoft-centric list.
>>
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf
>> Of *Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 13, 2006 5:48 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> You have to be able to laugh at yourself. M$ is a
>> tounge in cheek expression and certainly a corporation
>> like Microsoft can laugh at itself when M$ is used as
>> slang in its reference. Thats why we nickname really
>> big guys tiny.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf
>> Of *Albert Duro
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:27 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> being conciliatory is laudable, but I think you're
>> missing the point. It's not wether anybody is
>> offended or not -- the question is why does someone
>> come into a peaceful gathering casting offense.
>> Especially when it's not necessary. If someone
>> deliberately spits on the dinner table, do you say
>> 'oh, well, he didn't hit any plate, let's just forget
>> it' ? or even worse, 'he hit someone else's plate --
>> no worries.'
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 10, 2006 9:08 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>>
>> I highly doubt that any MS employee takes offence
>> at what is surely as tongue in cheek expression.
>>
>>
>> Let's not get _too_ PC please :/
>>
>>
>> neil
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Behalf Of *Laura A. Robinson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:14 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [ActiveDir] OT: M$
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, what makes people think
>> it's appropriate to refer to Microsoft as "M$"
>> on an MS-focused mailing list whose
>> participants include Microsoft employees,
>> Microsoft contractors, Microsoft MVPs and
>> various other people who may have a relatively
>> positive view of Microsoft?
>>
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> *On Behalf Of *Jitendra Kalyankar
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:16 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Beginner's Book
>> on Scripting - WSH or VBScript?
>>
>> This is the link to M$ to start
>> with...very good info....
>>
>>
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnanchor/html/scriptinga.asp
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> J
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/06, *Stu Packett*
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone. After reading through a
>> lot of the posts on this mailing list, I
>> realize I could make my job easier if I
>> knew how to script. I have no experience
>> in scripting, but would like to know what
>> books do you recommend as a beginner's
>> book on scripting? Also, I don't really
>> know the difference between WSH and
>> VBScript, so if anyone could explain that,
>> I'd appreciate that. After browsing
>> through Amazon, I saw several books on WSH
>> and VBScript, but don't know where I
>> should focus on. I'm also open to
>> computer based training (CBT) videos of
>> any exist. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
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