The worst problem I have getting used to C# and ASP.NET is my lack of
knowledge of the event model, such as Initialize, Load, and Render.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpguide
/html/cpconcontrolexecutionlifecycle.asp

Once I understood this, a lot of things made sense since I was used to
working with the more procedural VBScript.  I was getting quite
frustrated with ASP without this knowledge.

I will say that working with .NET has made my classic ASP work much
better and clearer. I work on both platforms concurrently (Maintaining
our application and rewriting it for the next version in .NET)

Rick.

-----Original Message-----
From: Remie Bolte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:19 AM
To: ActiveServerPages
Subject: Re: classic asp/asp.net

I can't agree with that
I know my classic ASP as wel as my VB.NET (self tought)
and i don't get confused by the two.

altough i must say, programming in classes is much easier and readable
then
random scripting.
in order to have a better understanding on working with classes, perhaps
one
should look into UML.

Regards

Remie Bolte


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ActiveServerPages" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: classic asp/asp.net


I think if I had the choice to start over again,  I would go directly to
ASP.NET.  I think having known classis ASP before hand,  confuses me
more
when trying to learn ASP.NET.  So, you Matt,  may be at an advantage not
having known classic ASP.  I really do need to learn it though.... Arg.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:55 AM
Posted To: Active Server Pages
Conversation: classic asp/asp.net
Subject: RE: classic asp/asp.net


I've not used Classic Asp much, but from what I know it is a procedural
language/script, with standard functions and it is written in top-down
format, interlaced with HTML. Most other internet languages work like
this
as well: ColdFusion, PERL, JSP/Servlets (except they are
object-oriented).
A procedural language is typically easier to learn and use.

I've been working with ASP.NET for about three months now - it's a
quantum
leap from the standard - first code an HTML page, then put programming
logic
in it.

.NET uses webforms, which I personally think are the greatest web
programming enhancement ever, excepting maybe only Flash.

I write HTML hardly at all now.  I concentrate on the logic, and I can
use
events like it's a windows form. The language is object-oriented, so
it's
crazy trying to find objects/methods/properties that I need sometimes,
but
it is SO POWERFUL. I can write complete web applications in one page
now,
with less than half the code of an old app.  Also, there is almost no
interspersing the presentation code with the logic. Code behind keeps
everything separated nicely.

Learning this is a little bit trying, but I am getting faster all the
time
as I use it - just like with any other language.  Because I don't come
from
a Classic-ASP background, I might be struggling more than someone with
that
knowledge.  But I think it's AMAZING.

When see the conversations on my old mailing lists (ColdFusion
primarily) and they are touting the wonderfulness of their newest
version,
or the  problems they are having with the newest version, I read the
messages and laugh to myself because I don't have those problems anymore
-
with .NET, the old problems have disappeared because this is a new
paradigm
in programming for the web.

I highly recommend learning ASP.NET first - it's the future.



Matthew Small
IT Supervisor
Showstopper National Dance Competitions
3660 Old Kings Hwy
Murrells Inlet, SC 29576
843-357-1847
http://www.showstopperonline.com


-----Original Message-----
From: deb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:44 AM
To: ActiveServerPages
Subject: classic asp/asp.net

Hi, I have been learning the classic asp. I have seen many discussions
in
regards to which is the better of the two, how difficult is it to go
from
the one to the other? I'd be interested to hear what you guys all have
to
say about this.

I have recieved many opnions as to which way to go. My decision stands
at
learning the classic asp first. Then going on to the asp.net. Opnions
regarding this decision are most welcome as well. thanks to all

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