Hi Sander,

My reading of PDP 2.4 is not that we can’t make changes (which I believe are in 
the same direction of the proposal, look for my questions below, so no 
substantial changes, only making sure that we have in the text what we want).

My reason to re-raise those now, is because they become evident when you 
compare the proposed 2.6 change with the policy proposal arguments AND 
specially the impact analysis, contradictions which for some reason, I didn’t 
discover before (so disagree with you, those points aren’t the same I raised 
before, may be similar, but the reason now is the contradictory text), and this 
seems to be in the scope of PDP 2.4.

The author of the proposal and the NCC could confirm their intent:
1) Is the proposal looking for disallowing a /64 ? If so, then the impact 
analysis is broken and NCC is looking to implement something different than 
what the proposal is asking for.
2) The proposal clearly is NOT intended for “permanent” broadband services, but 
his is NOT stated in the proposed text change. I doubt that the NCC can enforce 
a policy that don’t have that stated in the policy text. Can the NCC confirm 
that?
3) I also believe that the policy isn’t pretending to be used in data centers. 
Can this be clarified?

Regarding a possible appeal. The procedure talks about “unless there are 
exceptional extenuating circumstances”.

I think it is the case for an impact analysis contradicting the proposal.

Is up the chairs to decide that, of course and I understand that you may need 
to wait until the end of the last call to decide on that (this is the reason 
why I understand that the appeal doesn’t make sense now, unless you have 
already taken a decision).

If you believe is not the case, then, please let me know how to send the appeal 
to the “Working Group Chairs Collective (WGCC)”, I guess there is a mailing 
list for that?

Regards,
Jordi

-----Mensaje original-----
De: address-policy-wg <[email protected]> en nombre de Sander 
Steffann <[email protected]>
Fecha: lunes, 15 de enero de 2018, 15:58
Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[email protected]>
CC: <[email protected]>
Asunto: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2016-04 To Last Call (IPv6 Sub-assignment 
Clarification)

    Hi Jordi,
    
    > The point is not only the PDP, as I believe we are still on time to 
correct the policy proposal, which I think is broken and contradicting itself.
    > 
    > See my last email on the details, and a proposed text to resolve it, 
which according to the PDP, we can still apply I think
    
    We don't make any substantial changes in/after last call. Any "final 
changes" would be typo's. clearing up language etc. This is not the time to 
make changes to the core of the policy proposal.
    
    And besides: you're not coming up with new arguments. These are the same 
arguments that you have voiced before. You have been heard in previous phases 
of the PDP, we seriously considered their merit, extended the review phase (and 
please stop complaining about not making any textual changes for the extended 
review phase, as I explained that is the discretion of the working group 
chairs) to see if there was support for your approach, and reached the 
conclusion that there wasn't. Your ideas have been heard and seriously 
considered, but despite that we determined that there is rough consensus to 
continue with the current version and leave the changes you want for a future 
policy proposal.
    
    In the language of the RFC: we have addressed your objections, but not 
accommodated them.
    
    > , without the need to wait for the concluding phase and then the appeal.
    
    No need to wait. You can appeal the decision to declare consensus right now 
if you think our judgement was wrong. Feel free to do so. I'm confident we made 
the right decision, but we're human so if you think we made a mistake then 
let's ask the Working Group Chairs Collective what they decide.
    
    As far as I'm concerned reviewing the policy proposal is done. We have 
rough consensus on the content and have moved to last call. If new objections 
come up with supporting arguments and they can't be addressed then we will 
declare lack of consensus at the end of last call. Raising the same objections 
as before is not going to block consensus in this phase: we already consider 
those objections addressed.
    
    Cheers,
    Sander
    
    
    



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