On Thu, Nov 06, 2025 at 09:42:04AM -0500, jordi.palet--- via address-policy-wg 
wrote:

Hi Jordi,

> Hi Piotr, all,
> (and responding to several others as the points are basically the same)
> 
> If I recall correctly the data of rejected requests was provided a year ago 
> by the NCC and was in our slides for the first version of the proposal.

Thank you for this reminder. I assume you are referring to this
presentation [1]. Unfortunately, I was unable to find any email
containing this data.

Based on this, I found that from January 2023 to October 2024 (my
understanding of the sentence), NCC "closed 331 IPv6 additional
allocation tickets and extended 129 IPv6 allocations." That means 202
tickets were closed without such extension. Later on the same slide,
there is information that "Some people request an additional allocation,
we tell them more about how they can use their existing one, and they
never reply. _This happens often._". I assume [2] that "often" means 50%
of the time. That lowers the number to 101 tickets closed without
extension in the 22-month period, which means around 55 per year. An
important note is that other major reasons for closing the tickets
without such an extension were not mentioned in the presentation.

I leave the interpretation of this data to anyone interested.

> However, I don???t think this should be taken as the ???only real data??? 
> (and consequently % calculated by Nick are not good - we will not have good 
> data unless every member comes and say if they will have wanted a shorter 
> prefix). 

I beg to differ. First of all, we have some real data that allows us to
make estimates. Secondly, probing the entire population is not the only
way to obtain "good data" for some definition of good.

[1] 
https://ripe89.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/presentations/80-2024-02-RIPE-89-v1.1.pdf
[2] As a non-native speaker who doesn't want to be biased, I asked AI to
rank commonly used frequency adverbs/phrases in British English, along
with approximate probabilities indicating how often the events occur.
"Often" was assigned 50%-70%. I decided to use 50%. With 70%, the
numbers are 60 and 33, respectively.

Best,
Piotr

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