This core library could then be called "trinidad-core" or better
"trinidad-shared" and would include the skinning features that i wanted to
extract in its own library, among other services that you enumerated. I
guess MyFaces would probably end up using at least some of those shared
services, besides skinning on which was trying to focus mainly :) , so seems
like a more bigger task that i initialy thought about.

The request context API (specificaly, the RequestContext base class) is the
one that brings all these services togheter, right?

Regards,
Catalin

On 8/4/06, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

I think that what we'd want to provide, at least as a first pass
is a Trinidad Core library, that provides shared services independent
of the component set;  so, skinning, agent detection, some core
PPR APIs, pageFlowScope, the dialog framework, etc.

-- Adam


On 8/3/06, Catalin Kormos < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm glad to hear that. I worry about that too :) how much will the
skinning
> module provide.
>
> My thinking is that at least a base and thiner Agent API would be
needed, so
> agent detection will work just as it works right now in Trinidad (and
> defining styles based on that), but the actual detection maybe it
shouldn't
> be part of the skinning module . The context API is about integration
code
> already, right? some base classes for that would need to be provided by
this
> module also, right? so how would the skinning be integrated into MyFaces
or
> Trinidad is already a separate choise for each project, but integration
> shouldn't require too much work.
>
> How does this sound so far?
>
> Regards,
> Catalin
>
> On 8/2/06, Adam Winer < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > An excellent idea - but I do worry about how it'll
> > turn out in practice...  I think there's a lot of
> > dependencies, like the Agent API and (maybe)
> > the RequestContext API, etc.  If you start pulling
> > those out into a skinning module, that module
> > will end up having a lot more than just skinning in it.
> >
> > -- Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/1/06, Catalin Kormos < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > Thanks! stay tuned, more to come...
> > >
> > > On 7/31/06, Mike Kienenberger < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Catalin,
> > > >
> > > > Sounds great!   That's definitely part of the task of merging
Tomahawk
> > > > and Trinidad.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/31/06, Catalin Kormos < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > Hi there,
> > > > >
> > > > > Following the idea that it would be great if the skinning
features
> > > > currently
> > > > > available in Trinidad, would be available to the overall MyFaces

> > world
> > > > also,
> > > > > i would like to discuss with you guys what would it take to make
> > this
> > > > > happen. I would like to propose, the creation of a new module in

> > > > Trinidad,
> > > > > called "trinidad-skinning" in which the packages/classes that
are
> > > > > implementing the skinning features could be separated; the goal
> > would be
> > > > to
> > > > > end up having both Trinidad and MyFaces able to declare a
dependency
> > on
> > > > this
> > > > > new module and with some (minimal) integration code to use those

> > > > features in
> > > > > their own components sets.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are tree main packages that would need to go into the new
> > module
> > > > > (taken from trinidad-impl module):
> > > > >
> > > > >    1. org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.share (or this could
be
> > maybe
> > > > >    extracted in its own module, like trinidad-commons?, although
not
> > > > realy
> > > > >    necesary as impl would depend on skinning)
> > > > >    2. org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.skin
> > > > >    3. org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.style
> > > > >
> > > > > Besides these, there are other small utility and context classes
> > from
> > > > api
> > > > > and impl used by classes from the above packages, which could be

> > moved
> > > > into
> > > > > the new module (or maybe duplicated into the module, at least
some
> > of
> > > > them
> > > > > which can't be moved). One interface in particular, from the
api,
> > would
> > > > > neeed to be moved to the new module,
> > > > > org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.style.Agent. This interface
is
> > just
> > > > > declared in the api and used by the impl, but as impl will
declare a
> > > > > dependency on the skinning module, i think it's safe to be moved
> > there
> > > > or
> > > > > have a base interface in the new module.
> > > > >
> > > > > This would the general idea, I can come up with more, and
willing to
> > do
> > > > the
> > > > > work to make this happen. What i would like to start with is
make
> > some
> > > > > refactorings on some of the classes that have direct
dependencies on
> >
> > > > > trinidad, like FileSystemStyleCache, which has an inner field
> > > > _STYLE_KEY_MAP
> > > > > that holds the mappings between public style selectors names to
> > internal
> > > > > style selectors names. (this is actualy on your todo list
already,
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > comments i found in the code). Of course, more
> > questions/propositions
> > > > are on
> > > > > their way, as before opening an issue and providing a patch,
i'll
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > > make sure the solution is the right one. Another goal is also to
> > make
> > > > sure
> > > > > trinidad works just as before changing something.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Catalin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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