RequestContext is an important part of it, yeah, but
Skin and SkinFactory (which aren't yet fully public,
but probably need to be) too, probably other stuff.

-- Adam


On 8/4/06, Catalin Kormos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This core library could then be called "trinidad-core" or better
"trinidad-shared" and would include the skinning features that i wanted to
extract in its own library, among other services that you enumerated. I
guess MyFaces would probably end up using at least some of those shared
services, besides skinning on which was trying to focus mainly :) , so
seems
like a more bigger task that i initialy thought about.

The request context API (specificaly, the RequestContext base class) is
the
one that brings all these services togheter, right?

Regards,
Catalin

On 8/4/06, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> I think that what we'd want to provide, at least as a first pass
> is a Trinidad Core library, that provides shared services independent
> of the component set;  so, skinning, agent detection, some core
> PPR APIs, pageFlowScope, the dialog framework, etc.
>
> -- Adam
>
>
> On 8/3/06, Catalin Kormos < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm glad to hear that. I worry about that too :) how much will the
> skinning
> > module provide.
> >
> > My thinking is that at least a base and thiner Agent API would be
> needed, so
> > agent detection will work just as it works right now in Trinidad (and
> > defining styles based on that), but the actual detection maybe it
> shouldn't
> > be part of the skinning module . The context API is about integration
> code
> > already, right? some base classes for that would need to be provided
by
> this
> > module also, right? so how would the skinning be integrated into
MyFaces
> or
> > Trinidad is already a separate choise for each project, but
integration
> > shouldn't require too much work.
> >
> > How does this sound so far?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Catalin
> >
> > On 8/2/06, Adam Winer < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > An excellent idea - but I do worry about how it'll
> > > turn out in practice...  I think there's a lot of
> > > dependencies, like the Agent API and (maybe)
> > > the RequestContext API, etc.  If you start pulling
> > > those out into a skinning module, that module
> > > will end up having a lot more than just skinning in it.
> > >
> > > -- Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/1/06, Catalin Kormos < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! stay tuned, more to come...
> > > >
> > > > On 7/31/06, Mike Kienenberger < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Catalin,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds great!   That's definitely part of the task of merging
> Tomahawk
> > > > > and Trinidad.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/31/06, Catalin Kormos < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Following the idea that it would be great if the skinning
> features
> > > > > currently
> > > > > > available in Trinidad, would be available to the overall
MyFaces
>
> > > world
> > > > > also,
> > > > > > i would like to discuss with you guys what would it take to
make
> > > this
> > > > > > happen. I would like to propose, the creation of a new module
in
>
> > > > > Trinidad,
> > > > > > called "trinidad-skinning" in which the packages/classes that
> are
> > > > > > implementing the skinning features could be separated; the
goal
> > > would be
> > > > > to
> > > > > > end up having both Trinidad and MyFaces able to declare a
> dependency
> > > on
> > > > > this
> > > > > > new module and with some (minimal) integration code to use
those
>
> > > > > features in
> > > > > > their own components sets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are tree main packages that would need to go into the
new
> > > module
> > > > > > (taken from trinidad-impl module):
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    1. org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.share (or this could
> be
> > > maybe
> > > > > >    extracted in its own module, like trinidad-commons?,
although
> not
> > > > > realy
> > > > > >    necesary as impl would depend on skinning)
> > > > > >    2. org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.skin
> > > > > >    3. org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.style
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Besides these, there are other small utility and context
classes
> > > from
> > > > > api
> > > > > > and impl used by classes from the above packages, which could
be
>
> > > moved
> > > > > into
> > > > > > the new module (or maybe duplicated into the module, at least
> some
> > > of
> > > > > them
> > > > > > which can't be moved). One interface in particular, from the
> api,
> > > would
> > > > > > neeed to be moved to the new module,
> > > > > > org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.style.Agent. This
interface
> is
> > > just
> > > > > > declared in the api and used by the impl, but as impl will
> declare a
> > > > > > dependency on the skinning module, i think it's safe to be
moved
> > > there
> > > > > or
> > > > > > have a base interface in the new module.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This would the general idea, I can come up with more, and
> willing to
> > > do
> > > > > the
> > > > > > work to make this happen. What i would like to start with is
> make
> > > some
> > > > > > refactorings on some of the classes that have direct
> dependencies on
> > >
> > > > > > trinidad, like FileSystemStyleCache, which has an inner field
> > > > > _STYLE_KEY_MAP
> > > > > > that holds the mappings between public style selectors names
to
> > > internal
> > > > > > style selectors names. (this is actualy on your todo list
> already,
> > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > comments i found in the code). Of course, more
> > > questions/propositions
> > > > > are on
> > > > > > their way, as before opening an issue and providing a patch,
> i'll
> > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > make sure the solution is the right one. Another goal is also
to
> > > make
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > trinidad works just as before changing something.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Catalin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>


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