In response to editing two camera sources questions.
 
First, I have never responded to this group before and I am not sure 
that this is going to get through to the group.  But here goes anyway.
 
I edit in Premier 6.5 and I know that PP 1.5 and 2.0 are quite 
different, but I am not sure how.  I am assuming that Pro has real 
time viewing of effects as I have on 6.5.  Here is how I do it.  This 
might work for you also.
 
I place camera 1 on video 1 with the audio on audio 1 and I place 
camera 2 on video 2 and the audio on audio 2.  So far so good.  I 
then make a picture in picture effect with my dominate camera as the 
larger image and stretch the effect out as long as I want to or for 
the full length of the shot or event.
 
I then (viewing the time line at the 2 second distance where I can 
see the wave form on both audio tracks,)  I slide one camera (and 
it's track) until I get both of the audio tracks in sync.  It is very 
accurate to listen to see if there is an echo. Slight echo is one 
frame out.  Zoom into the 4 frame distance and you can see quite well 
on the waveform if the track is out of sync and which way it should 
be moved.
 
When in sync, then play, watching both Pic in Pic images on your 
monitor.  When you want to make a cut, Just razor blade the pictures, 
not the tracks and move on to where you want to cut back (or any 
other effect for that matter).  When finished with full length of 
shot, go back and delete every other scene (razor cuts) and you have 
the edited movie.
 
Regarding the out of sync problem, watch the scene while listening to 
both tracks and you can hear if or when it gets out of sync.  See if 
it jumps out a bunch or drifts only one frame every so often.  If it 
is only a frame or two, just razor blade the offending track and take 
out a frame as needed.  Actually, it is jumps a lot, you can also 
just razor blade the longest track and take out the offending frames. 
Don't forget to look at the video to make sure you don't have to take 
the same number of frames out to keep that camera in sync also.
 
I hope this helps. Good luck.
 
Cheers,
 
Bob in San Diego
 
"...Life is NOT a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving 
safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in 
broadside on two wheels in a cloud of dust, thoroughly used up, 
totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming---WOW---What a Ride"!
 
Author Unknown
 



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1a. Re: editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5) 
Posted by: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   captaincapstan 
Thu Jul 6, 2006 10:20 pm (PST) 
I am finding it hard to believe that one camera sped only a little, 
unless
someone accidentally triggered the stop and immediately started 
recording
again

video is locked to sync at 29.97 fps. that's crystal controlled or
something, it should not slip even a little. I've been doing multicam 
in 
ppro 2, 40 minnit clips of a symphony concert with not a problem

the solution, assuming i am correct (it happens occasionally!), is to 
cut 
something out of one clip to make it match the other. I fear that 
speed 
changed would just throw everything off

if you just let it play through, does the audio suddenly go out of 
sync at 
some point? that's where I'd start looking

js

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From: "Jeff Schell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AP] editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-
5)

1. You can change the length / duration of the clips by right-
clicking them
and choose Speed/Duration. Or, you can use the Rate Stretch Tool from 
the
Tools palette, which will allow you to manually drag the In / Out 
handles of
a clip and shorten/lengthen the clip in the Timeline window.

However, in your case, the trick is going to be calculating how many 
frames
it is off. Personally, I would go to the end of the longest clip, and 
count
backwards to figure out how many frames the audio is off. Once you 
know
that, you can right click on the long clip and choose Speed/Duration 
to
shorten the duration by the desired # of frames.

2. 1.5 doesn't come with any built-in multicamera options, so you'll 
have to
do this using two tracks. You're correct that Premiere only shows you 
the
top most video track, when the two clips overlap. Again, this is a 
matter of
preference, but I would put the better of the two clips on track 1. 
Then I
would add to track 2 the "good chunks" of the other clip that I want 
to use.
This can be done "additive" by keeping the second clip in the source 
monitor
and only adding the portions that you want. Or you can do 
this "subtractive"
by putting the second clip on track 2 and using the Razor tool to 
splice the
areas you don't want and manually remove them.

Ideally, one of the two clips has better audio, so you can completely 
remove
the second audio. Multicameras, IMHO, look better when you've got one 
audio
source, but with multiple video sources.

Jeff Schell www.jeffschell.com
· Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) · Adobe Certified Instructor (ACI)
· On-Site, Classroom Training for Premiere Pro, After Effects, 
Audition,
Encore DVD, Photoshop
· Books: Premiere Pro 2 Hands-On-Training · Premiere Pro 1.5 H-O-T
· DVDs / Online Tutorials: Premiere Pro 2 Essential Training at 
Lynda.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Emma N.
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:02 AM
Subject: [AP] editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5)

Like the guy below I'm new to Premiere Pro 1.5 and have two video
clips of the same event taken from different angles. I figured out how
to view the clips in dual monitor mode in Premiere (the help files are
not that good), and drop markers on a distinguishing frame in each
clip and line up the markers in the event timeline.

Now I have a couple questions

1) toward the end of the clips it seems they aren't synced, as if
camera #1 was running a little faster than camera #2. How can I get
Premiere to expand or squish (which is better?) one of the clips so
they both are the same length?

2) how can I transition from one camera source to the next? I have
camera #1 in Video 3 of the timeline (audio is in Audio 3) and camera
#2 in Video 2 of the timeline (audio in Audio 2), but when I try to
play them back all I see is camera 1 (I am hearing the audio from
both, which is how I can tell they're out of sync)

Any help or reference to a good web tutorial or book would be greatly
appreciated...

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Hello All,

I am new to video editing. And I need help.

I have two video clips of the same event from two different angel, 
from
two diffrent camera. Now I need to make a single video clip, from 
these
two, taking different parts from different angel.

So here what I am doing, first I put the clips in different track.
Video track 1 and Video track 2. The audio went 1 and 2 resepectively.
Now I want to synchronize them. Once done, I would cut parts from 
Video
track 1, so that in these places Video track 2 can be visible. And so
on...

Is this the best way to do this? If so, how do I synchronize in 
Premier
Pro and how do cut off parts from tracks.

If not, please give some tips, so that I can start. If possible, 
please
provide links Premier Pro tutorials.

Thanks

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A better way to do it is using the dual monitor within Premiere. Place
one
video on a track so it appears in the right monitor window. Find some
distinct action or movement by the subject in the picture. Once you
find a
defining instance in the picture use the * key on the number pad to
place a
marker at that point. Drag the second video to the left monitor, find
that
same defining moment and then using single frame forward or backward
(right
arrow or left arrow) find the frame that matches the one in the right
monitor. Place a marker on it and then line up the markers on the
timeline.

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1b. Re: editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5) 
Posted by: "Emma N." [EMAIL PROTECTED]   usenet_daughter 
Thu Jul 6, 2006 10:46 pm (PST) 
Thanks for your replies, they are most helpful. 

These lead me to a couple of other questions. 

Does Premiere 2 have better support for multicameras? Is it worth the
upgrade for this feature? 

With regard to your comment about using the better audio source, I
found the audio for one music event was very different for the two
cameras - one camera picked up the vocals better and the other picked
up the instruments. I would probably remix them into a stereo image,
but am curious - is it possible to set up the audio in Premiere to be
"quadraphonic" so that it would play back on a standard 5.1 surround
sound DVD, like 

front left: camera #1 left
front right: camera #1 right
rear left: camera #2 left
rear right: camera #2 right
center, bass channels: (some mix of the above)

or would this have to be done in some DVD authoring program? 

Would there be a sync or phasing problem? 

Thanks again

--- In [email protected], "Jeff Schell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 1. You can change the length / duration of the clips by
right-clicking them and choose Speed/Duration. Or, you can use the
Rate Stretch Tool from the Tools palette, which will allow you to
manually drag the In / Out handles of a clip and shorten/lengthen the
clip in the Timeline window. 
> 
> However, in your case, the trick is going to be calculating how many
frames it is off. Personally, I would go to the end of the longest
clip, and count backwards to figure out how many frames the audio is
off. Once you know that, you can right click on the long clip and
choose Speed/Duration to shorten the duration by the desired # of 
frames.
> 
> 2. 1.5 doesn't come with any built-in multicamera options, so you'll
have to do this using two tracks. You're correct that Premiere only
shows you the top most video track, when the two clips overlap. Again,
this is a matter of preference, but I would put the better of the two
clips on track 1. Then I would add to track 2 the "good chunks" of the
other clip that I want to use. This can be done "additive" by keeping
the second clip in the source monitor and only adding the portions
that you want. Or you can do this "subtractive" by putting the second
clip on track 2 and using the Razor tool to splice the areas you don't
want and manually remove them.
> 
> Ideally, one of the two clips has better audio, so you can
completely remove the second audio. Multicameras, IMHO, look better
when you've got one audio source, but with multiple video sources.
> 
> 
> Jeff Schell www.jeffschell.com
> · Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) · Adobe Certified Instructor (ACI)
> · On-Site, Classroom Training for Premiere Pro, After Effects,
Audition, Encore DVD, Photoshop
> · Books: Premiere Pro 2 Hands-On-Training · Premiere Pro 1.5 H-O-T
> · DVDs / Online Tutorials: Premiere Pro 2 Essential Training at
Lynda.com 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Emma N. 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:02 AM
> Subject: [AP] editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5)
> 
> 
> Like the guy below I'm new to Premiere Pro 1.5 and have two video
> clips of the same event taken from different angles. I figured out 
how
> to view the clips in dual monitor mode in Premiere (the help files 
are
> not that good), and drop markers on a distinguishing frame in each
> clip and line up the markers in the event timeline.
> 
> Now I have a couple questions
> 
> 1) toward the end of the clips it seems they aren't synced, as if
> camera #1 was running a little faster than camera #2. How can I get
> Premiere to expand or squish (which is better?) one of the clips so
> they both are the same length?
> 
> 2) how can I transition from one camera source to the next? I have
> camera #1 in Video 3 of the timeline (audio is in Audio 3) and 
camera
> #2 in Video 2 of the timeline (audio in Audio 2), but when I try to
> play them back all I see is camera 1 (I am hearing the audio from
> both, which is how I can tell they're out of sync)
> 
> Any help or reference to a good web tutorial or book would be 
greatly
> appreciated...
> 
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> Date: Fri, Jan 28 2005 4:49 am
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> Hello All,
> 
> I am new to video editing. And I need help.
> 
> I have two video clips of the same event from two different angel,
from
> two diffrent camera. Now I need to make a single video clip, from
these
> two, taking different parts from different angel.
> 
> So here what I am doing, first I put the clips in different track.
> Video track 1 and Video track 2. The audio went 1 and 2 
resepectively.
> Now I want to synchronize them. Once done, I would cut parts from
Video
> track 1, so that in these places Video track 2 can be visible. And 
so
> on...
> 
> Is this the best way to do this? If so, how do I synchronize in
Premier
> Pro and how do cut off parts from tracks.
> 
> If not, please give some tips, so that I can start. If possible,
please
> provide links Premier Pro tutorials.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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> A better way to do it is using the dual monitor within Premiere. 
Place
> one
> video on a track so it appears in the right monitor window. Find 
some
> distinct action or movement by the subject in the picture. Once you
> find a
> defining instance in the picture use the * key on the number pad to
> place a
> marker at that point. Drag the second video to the left monitor, 
find
> that
> same defining moment and then using single frame forward or backward
> (right
> arrow or left arrow) find the frame that matches the one in the 
right
> monitor. Place a marker on it and then line up the markers on the
> timeline.
> 
> -- 
> Larry Johnson
> Digital Video Solutions
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.digitalvideosolutions.com
> 877-227-6281 Toll Free Sales Assistance
> 386-672-1941 Customer Service
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> 386-676-1515 Fax 
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> 
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1c. Re: editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5) 
Posted by: "Jeff Schell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   pluto_js 
Fri Jul 7, 2006 9:02 am (PST) 
Believe it or not, different cameras and tapes will record at ever-so-
slightly different rates. Primarily, it happens when you record with 
camera Brand A and playback with tape deck or camera Brand B. Also, 
sometimes different tape manufacturers can have a subtle impact. The 
experiences that the original poster described are not uncommon.

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· On-Site, Classroom Training for Premiere Pro, After Effects, 
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· DVDs / Online Tutorials: Premiere Pro 2 Essential Training at 
Lynda.com 
----- Original Message ----- 
I am finding it hard to believe that one camera sped only a little, 
unless
someone accidentally triggered the stop and immediately started 
recording
again

video is locked to sync at 29.97 fps. that's crystal controlled or
something, it should not slip even a little. I've been doing multicam 
in 
ppro 2, 40 minnit clips of a symphony concert with not a problem

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1d. Re: editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5) 
Posted by: "Jeff Schell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   pluto_js 
Fri Jul 7, 2006 9:07 am (PST) 
Hi again Emma,

Premiere 2 does have support for multicameras. It allows you to watch 
all of your sources at once (up to 4) and then simply click on the 
source that you'd like to use. If you're looking for a good book 
(*cough*shameless plug*cough*) then check on Premiere Pro 2 Hands On 
Training. (See link below) However, is it worth the upgrade for this 
feature? Mmm-- personally. No. I'm cheap. It depends on how you feel 
about spending a few hundred dollars to upgrade. To some, that's the 
world. To others, it's part of business expenses and easily absorbed. 
It also depends on how often you'll need this feature. I think once 
you get the hang of it in 1.5, it's not so hard to accomplish 
manually.

Yes, it is possible to remix them to surround sound in Premiere. I 
believe you'll have to break them each out to their own mono tracks, 
and then send them into a surround sound submix track in the audio 
mixer. (Although I don't remember if you need to specify the bass 
manually or not.)

Jeff Schell www.jeffschell.com
· Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) · Adobe Certified Instructor (ACI)
· On-Site, Classroom Training for Premiere Pro, After Effects, 
Audition, Encore DVD, Photoshop
· Books: Premiere Pro 2 Hands-On-Training · Premiere Pro 1.5 H-O-T
· DVDs / Online Tutorials: Premiere Pro 2 Essential Training at 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Emma N. 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AP] editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-
5)

Thanks for your replies, they are most helpful. 

These lead me to a couple of other questions. 

Does Premiere 2 have better support for multicameras? Is it worth the
upgrade for this feature? 

With regard to your comment about using the better audio source, I
found the audio for one music event was very different for the two
cameras - one camera picked up the vocals better and the other picked
up the instruments. I would probably remix them into a stereo image,
but am curious - is it possible to set up the audio in Premiere to be
"quadraphonic" so that it would play back on a standard 5.1 surround
sound DVD, like 

front left: camera #1 left
front right: camera #1 right
rear left: camera #2 left
rear right: camera #2 right
center, bass channels: (some mix of the above)

or would this have to be done in some DVD authoring program? 

Would there be a sync or phasing problem? 

Thanks again

--- In [email protected], "Jeff Schell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 1. You can change the length / duration of the clips by
right-clicking them and choose Speed/Duration. Or, you can use the
Rate Stretch Tool from the Tools palette, which will allow you to
manually drag the In / Out handles of a clip and shorten/lengthen the
clip in the Timeline window. 
> 
> However, in your case, the trick is going to be calculating how many
frames it is off. Personally, I would go to the end of the longest
clip, and count backwards to figure out how many frames the audio is
off. Once you know that, you can right click on the long clip and
choose Speed/Duration to shorten the duration by the desired # of 
frames.
> 
> 2. 1.5 doesn't come with any built-in multicamera options, so you'll
have to do this using two tracks. You're correct that Premiere only
shows you the top most video track, when the two clips overlap. Again,
this is a matter of preference, but I would put the better of the two
clips on track 1. Then I would add to track 2 the "good chunks" of the
other clip that I want to use. This can be done "additive" by keeping
the second clip in the source monitor and only adding the portions
that you want. Or you can do this "subtractive" by putting the second
clip on track 2 and using the Razor tool to splice the areas you don't
want and manually remove them.
> 
> Ideally, one of the two clips has better audio, so you can
completely remove the second audio. Multicameras, IMHO, look better
when you've got one audio source, but with multiple video sources.
> 
> 
> Jeff Schell www.jeffschell.com
> · Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) · Adobe Certified Instructor (ACI)
> · On-Site, Classroom Training for Premiere Pro, After Effects,
Audition, Encore DVD, Photoshop
> · Books: Premiere Pro 2 Hands-On-Training · Premiere Pro 1.5 H-O-T
> · DVDs / Online Tutorials: Premiere Pro 2 Essential Training at
Lynda.com 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Emma N. 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:02 AM
> Subject: [AP] editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5)
> 
> 
> Like the guy below I'm new to Premiere Pro 1.5 and have two video
> clips of the same event taken from different angles. I figured out 
how
> to view the clips in dual monitor mode in Premiere (the help files 
are
> not that good), and drop markers on a distinguishing frame in each
> clip and line up the markers in the event timeline.
> 
> Now I have a couple questions
> 
> 1) toward the end of the clips it seems they aren't synced, as if
> camera #1 was running a little faster than camera #2. How can I get
> Premiere to expand or squish (which is better?) one of the clips so
> they both are the same length?
> 
> 2) how can I transition from one camera source to the next? I have
> camera #1 in Video 3 of the timeline (audio is in Audio 3) and 
camera
> #2 in Video 2 of the timeline (audio in Audio 2), but when I try to
> play them back all I see is camera 1 (I am hearing the audio from
> both, which is how I can tell they're out of sync)
> 
> Any help or reference to a good web tutorial or book would be 
greatly
> appreciated...
> 
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> Date: Fri, Jan 28 2005 4:49 am
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> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am new to video editing. And I need help.
> 
> I have two video clips of the same event from two different angel,
from
> two diffrent camera. Now I need to make a single video clip, from
these
> two, taking different parts from different angel.
> 
> So here what I am doing, first I put the clips in different track.
> Video track 1 and Video track 2. The audio went 1 and 2 
resepectively.
> Now I want to synchronize them. Once done, I would cut parts from
Video
> track 1, so that in these places Video track 2 can be visible. And 
so
> on...
> 
> Is this the best way to do this? If so, how do I synchronize in
Premier
> Pro and how do cut off parts from tracks.
> 
> If not, please give some tips, so that I can start. If possible,
please
> provide links Premier Pro tutorials.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Reply Rate this post: Text for clearing space
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> Date: Fri, Jan 28 2005 8:59 am
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> A better way to do it is using the dual monitor within Premiere. 
Place
> one
> video on a track so it appears in the right monitor window. Find 
some
> distinct action or movement by the subject in the picture. Once you
> find a
> defining instance in the picture use the * key on the number pad to
> place a
> marker at that point. Drag the second video to the left monitor, 
find
> that
> same defining moment and then using single frame forward or backward
> (right
> arrow or left arrow) find the frame that matches the one in the 
right
> monitor. Place a marker on it and then line up the markers on the
> timeline.
> 
> -- 
> Larry Johnson
> Digital Video Solutions
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.digitalvideosolutions.com
> 877-227-6281 Toll Free Sales Assistance
> 386-672-1941 Customer Service
> 386-672-1907 Technical Support
> 386-676-1515 Fax 
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--- In [email protected], "Jeff Schell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Hi again Emma,
> 
> Premiere 2 does have support for multicameras. It allows you to 
watch all of your sources at once (up to 4) and then simply click on 
the source that you'd like to use. If you're looking for a good book 
(*cough*shameless plug*cough*) then check on Premiere Pro 2 Hands On 
Training. (See link below) However, is it worth the upgrade for this 
feature? Mmm-- personally. No. I'm cheap. It depends on how you feel 
about spending a few hundred dollars to upgrade. To some, that's the 
world. To others, it's part of business expenses and easily absorbed. 
It also depends on how often you'll need this feature. I think once 
you get the hang of it in 1.5, it's not so hard to accomplish 
manually.
> 
> Yes, it is possible to remix them to surround sound in Premiere. I 
believe you'll have to break them each out to their own mono tracks, 
and then send them into a surround sound submix track in the audio 
mixer. (Although I don't remember if you need to specify the bass 
manually or not.)
> 
> 
> Jeff Schell www.jeffschell.com
> · Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) · Adobe Certified Instructor (ACI)
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Emma N. 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:18 PM
>   Subject: Re: [AP] editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere 
pro 1-5)
> 
> 
>   Thanks for your replies, they are most helpful. 
> 
>   These lead me to a couple of other questions. 
> 
>   Does Premiere 2 have better support for multicameras? Is it worth 
the
>   upgrade for this feature? 
> 
>   With regard to your comment about using the better audio source, I
>   found the audio for one music event was very different for the two
>   cameras - one camera picked up the vocals better and the other 
picked
>   up the instruments. I would probably remix them into a stereo 
image,
>   but am curious - is it possible to set up the audio in Premiere 
to be
>   "quadraphonic" so that it would play back on a standard 5.1 
surround
>   sound DVD, like 
> 
>   front left: camera #1 left
>   front right: camera #1 right
>   rear left: camera #2 left
>   rear right: camera #2 right
>   center, bass channels: (some mix of the above)
> 
>   or would this have to be done in some DVD authoring program? 
> 
>   Would there be a sync or phasing problem? 
> 
>   Thanks again
> 
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "Jeff Schell" <trainer@> 
wrote:
>   >
>   > 1. You can change the length / duration of the clips by
>   right-clicking them and choose Speed/Duration. Or, you can use the
>   Rate Stretch Tool from the Tools palette, which will allow you to
>   manually drag the In / Out handles of a clip and shorten/lengthen 
the
>   clip in the Timeline window. 
>   > 
>   > However, in your case, the trick is going to be calculating how 
many
>   frames it is off. Personally, I would go to the end of the longest
>   clip, and count backwards to figure out how many frames the audio 
is
>   off. Once you know that, you can right click on the long clip and
>   choose Speed/Duration to shorten the duration by the desired # of 
frames.
>   > 
>   > 2. 1.5 doesn't come with any built-in multicamera options, so 
you'll
>   have to do this using two tracks. You're correct that Premiere 
only
>   shows you the top most video track, when the two clips overlap. 
Again,
>   this is a matter of preference, but I would put the better of the 
two
>   clips on track 1. Then I would add to track 2 the "good chunks" 
of the
>   other clip that I want to use. This can be done "additive" by 
keeping
>   the second clip in the source monitor and only adding the portions
>   that you want. Or you can do this "subtractive" by putting the 
second
>   clip on track 2 and using the Razor tool to splice the areas you 
don't
>   want and manually remove them.
>   > 
>   > Ideally, one of the two clips has better audio, so you can
>   completely remove the second audio. Multicameras, IMHO, look 
better
>   when you've got one audio source, but with multiple video sources.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Jeff Schell www.jeffschell.com
>   > · Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) · Adobe Certified Instructor 
(ACI)
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O-T
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>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Emma N. 
>   >   To: [email protected] 
>   >   Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:02 AM
>   >   Subject: [AP] editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere 
pro 1-5)
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Like the guy below I'm new to Premiere Pro 1.5 and have two 
video
>   >   clips of the same event taken from different angles. I 
figured out how
>   >   to view the clips in dual monitor mode in Premiere (the help 
files are
>   >   not that good), and drop markers on a distinguishing frame in 
each
>   >   clip and line up the markers in the event timeline.
>   > 
>   >   Now I have a couple questions
>   > 
>   >   1) toward the end of the clips it seems they aren't synced, 
as if
>   >   camera #1 was running a little faster than camera #2. How can 
I get
>   >   Premiere to expand or squish (which is better?) one of the 
clips so
>   >   they both are the same length?
>   > 
>   >   2) how can I transition from one camera source to the next? I 
have
>   >   camera #1 in Video 3 of the timeline (audio is in Audio 3) 
and camera
>   >   #2 in Video 2 of the timeline (audio in Audio 2), but when I 
try to
>   >   play them back all I see is camera 1 (I am hearing the audio 
from
>   >   both, which is how I can tell they're out of sync)
>   > 
>   >   Any help or reference to a good web tutorial or book would be 
greatly
>   >   appreciated...
>   > 
>   >   From:           bipod.rafi...@ - view profile
>   >   Date:           Fri, Jan 28 2005 4:49 am
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>   >   Hello All,
>   > 
>   >   I am new to video editing. And I need help.
>   > 
>   >   I have two video clips of the same event from two different 
angel,
>   from
>   >   two diffrent camera. Now I need to make a single video clip, 
from
>   these
>   >   two, taking different parts from different angel.
>   > 
>   >   So here what I am doing, first I put the clips in different 
track.
>   >   Video track 1 and Video track 2. The audio went 1 and 2 
resepectively.
>   >   Now I want to synchronize them. Once done, I would cut parts 
from
>   Video
>   >   track 1, so that in these places Video  track 2 can be 
visible. And so
>   >   on...
>   > 
>   >   Is this the best way to do this? If so, how do I synchronize 
in
>   Premier
>   >   Pro and how do cut off parts from tracks.
>   > 
>   >   If not, please give some tips, so that I can start. If 
possible,
>   please
>   >   provide links Premier Pro tutorials.
>   > 
>   >   Thanks
>   > 
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>   >   A better way to do it is using the dual monitor within 
Premiere. Place
>   >   one
>   >   video on a track so it appears in the right monitor window. 
Find some
>   >   distinct action or movement by the subject in the picture. 
Once you
>   >   find a
>   >   defining instance in the picture use the *  key on the number 
pad to
>   >   place a
>   >   marker at that point. Drag the second video to the left 
monitor, find
>   >   that
>   >   same defining moment and then using single frame forward or 
backward
>   >   (right
>   >   arrow or left arrow) find the frame that matches the one in 
the right
>   >   monitor. Place a marker on it and then line up the markers on 
the
>   >   timeline.
>   > 
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