Sorry for being less informed but what this 3rd party copy functionality does and again how this feature will help to let the server know what the client have done?
Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant "Joshua S. Bassi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 20.10.2001 00:27:36 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: storage agent? > 4. What is this server-less operation? Is this an already implemented feature in v4.2.1 (new feature in maintenance release ?!?) or just something planned to be implemented in v5.1 (or later) ? How the server-less backup will mark volumes if it does not have any path to notify the server DB? Or this would be some kind of standalone solution, i.e. server + local client (+TDP for Apps) with reduced capabilities/features? It is my understanding that Serverless backup will be release in 5.1. I believe it will only work with SAN Routers and Gateways which have the SCSI 3rd Party copy functionality built-in. -- Joshua S. Bassi Independent IT Consultant IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM Cell (408)&(831) 332-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Zlatko Krastev/ACIT Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: storage agent? Help me to understand and please correct if I am wrong: 1. As far as I know from v4.1 and what I read in v4.2 docs, the storage agent allows LAN-free (-->) DATA (<--) movement. Meta-data goes through LAN from client to server and sits in the DB. The server mounts the tape volume, (I do not know who exactly does tape positioning), and storage agent (limited functionality server code) writes backup data through SAN to the tape. If needed server dismounts volume, mounts new one and the operation continues. So if we thing about the storage pool data it goes straight from client/agent to volume - no server involvement except for tape mount/dismount. It does not have to go through the server. 2. SAN library sharing through SAN Data Gateway (or SAN Data Gateway Router) is available since v3.7 between servers, enhanced in v4.1 to allow storage agent (not server) also to access the tapes but only for Windows Agent and in v4.2 is additionally enhanced providing storage agents on AIX and Solaris. So this was available long time ago (sorry I cannot say when v4.1 was announced and am too lazy to check). 3. There is a possibility to share sequential volumes which are not tapes but FILE devclass through SANergy. Did anybody tested/used this? Is anybody on this list using SANergy? Does this mean that a storage agent can backup to shared FILE volumes (best theoretical backup time - both disks and FC) and later TSM server can perform storage pool backup and migration? 4. What is this server-less operation? Is this an already implemented feature in v4.2.1 (new feature in maintenance release ?!?) or just something planned to be implemented in v5.1 (or later) ? How the server-less backup will mark volumes if it does not have any path to notify the server DB? Or this would be some kind of standalone solution, i.e. server + local client (+TDP for Apps) with reduced capabilities/features? Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Suad Musovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 18.10.2001 07:09:54 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: storage agent? That will imply 3rd party SCSI copy functionality, which I haven't seen any indication they have incorporated to TSM. The physical data will still have to go through the TSM server, within the SAN environment, before it gets put in a storage pool. Suad -- On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 10:44:36PM -0400, Seay, Paul wrote: > Yes > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bern Ruelas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: storage agent? > > > Thanks Alex, > > Now this is LAN-less backups, right? Just metadata going to the server, > all backups going direct from disk to tape over the SAN network.....right? > > -Bern > > At 10:30 AM 10/17/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >Bern, Si se puede, and it's available right now > > > >Regards...Alex Osuna > >IBM Principal Systems Engineer > >Tivoli Certified Consultant > >408-256-9952 > >Fax 408-904-5326 > >Pager 408-390-0813 > >"The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance"--Thomas Jefferson" > > > > > > > > Bern Ruelas > > <bern@CADENCE. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > COM> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: storage agent? > > "ADSM: Dist > > Stor Manager" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IST.EDU> > > > > > > 10/17/01 09:24 > > AM > > Please respond > > to "ADSM: Dist > > Stor Manager" > > > > > > > > > > > >Joshua, > > > >Could this be used with IBM's San Data Gateways to stream data > >directly to the tape drives? I thot that was due out 1Qtr of next year. > > > >-Bern > >Sr. Systems Engineer > >Cadence Design Systems > >Off: (408) 428-5246 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >At 04:52 PM 10/16/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > >The Storage Agent is a stripped down version of the TSM server that > > >allows LAN-free and I think eventually serverless backup of data. > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Joshua S. Bassi > > >Independent IT Consultant > > >IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark > > >Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM > > >Cell (408)&(831) 332-4006 > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > >Gerald Wichmann > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:07 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: storage agent? > > > > > >Whats the storage agent download for in the TSM 4.2.1 upgrade? Must be > > >something new to TSM 4.2 that I'm just not remembering offhand. > > > > > >Gerald Wichmann > > >System Engineer > > >StorageLink > > >408-844-8893 (v) > > >408-844-9801 (f)
