As far as I know (sorry I never had mainframe on hand to play with =-(
there is TSM client only for Linux/390 and OS/390 UNIX.
And if we read the "Using the UNIX Backup-Archive Clients" book:
"Image backup is supported on AIX, Solaris, and HP-UX. " !!
So the answer for me is NO. Even when you are able to access somehow the
drive in question in OS/390 UNIX (when Linux will have raw devices?) you
are lacking image backup client.
But same scenario with AIX or Solaris being core TSM server or at least
storage agent sharing library with the server can work. HP/UX is new to SAN
sharing, has only Server/Server sharing capabilities and I have not yet
heard someone to use it.
I hope this helps.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant





"Tweedy, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 29.10.2001 18:36:06
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:        Re: MVS TSM Backup of RAW FS (ie.open Systems)

Well actually I will have other TSM NT servers in the picture but my
problem
is that I need to get the data to an MVS tape device and by using the NT
TSM
server I thought I was forced to move the data via IP to get it to MVS.
Currently MVS is the only client who can access the tape device in
question.

Where is the issue with doing what I want?  Is it because the MVS TSM
Server
is not a client or is it because the MVS TSM server cannot read the FS?  I
was hoping that it would be like in Distributed environments where you
quite
regularly need to back up raw disk as that is quite regularly used for
Database storage.

Thanks!
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua S. Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MVS TSM Backup of RAW FS (ie.open Systems)


No, the TSM server on MVS will not be able to back this up.  If you were
running another NT, or AIX and Solaris and eventually HP-UX TSM server
then there is a way to do this, but not on MVS.


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Independent IT Consultant
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
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-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Tweedy, Rick
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 6:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MVS TSM Backup of RAW FS (ie.open Systems)

Hi Everyone,

I am investigating the creation of an enterprise backup solution based
on
both distributed NT TSM servers and a MVS TSM Server.  One of the key
points
to my question is the fact that we will be using enterprise storage
devices
that are accessible from both the MVS Side(via ESCON) and the NT side
(via
Fibre Channel).  My question is:
Assuming MVS can take ownership of a NT LUN, that is actually a mirror
(broken) of a production LUN, can the TSM Server running on MVS backup
this
LUN in a RAW format?  I understand that MVS will not be able to read the
file system but I figure it should be able to backup and restore the
volume
RAW.  Does anyone out there have any information on this or pointers to
information on this in the documentation?

Thankyou for your help and time

Rick

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