Here's the language from the announcement:
A client is a computer system or process that requests a service of another
computer system that is typically referred to as a server. Multiple clients
may share access to a common server. A client has some processing
capability, or is programmable to allow a user to do work. Examples include
laptop computers, desktop computers, and desk-side computers.
A server is a computer system that provides services to one or more
clients, or other devices over a network. Examples include, but are not
limited to, file servers, print servers, mail servers, database servers,
application servers, and Web servers. A server is defined by its use in the
customer's environment, not by its use in a Tivoli application.
I take this to mean that clients are machines that do not provide services
to other machines. Your (unix?) CAD workstations are probably clients
under this definition. Each "client" would require a four point license.
The good news (?) is that your excess points can be allocated to new
clients that may come on board.
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William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
Tab Trepagnier
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Please respond to
"ADSM: Dist Stor
Manager"
Paul / Steve,
By that definition, one would not need a purchased license for
"workstations" since the four-point license is for tier-1 servers. Yet
we've had to purchase tier-1 client licenses for ALL of our machines that
currently back up to TSM, even the CAD workstations that are about half of
our total client count. If what you say is correct, we were ripped off.
Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram Corporation
"Seay, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@VM.MARIST.EDU> on 12/09/2001 10:07:03
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Subject: Re: Point system has me very confused
You are correct, that is the definition of workstation vs server.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Point system has me very confused
As I understand it,
if a machine provides a service to other machines then it is a server. If
it
doesn't then its a workstation.
So, in the case of your B50, if the DB2 database is only used by users
logged in to that box, its not a server. If its your classic 3 tiered
application, but all components run on the B50 then its still a
workstation.
But if you run an application client on a different machine that connects
to
the database on the B50, Bingo! its a server.
Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin,
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia
>>> Jeff Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/12/2001 11:13:05 >>>
Can somebody help me to understand this point/tier system. It understand
that sharing Tivoli pricing information is some kind of no-no, so please
feel free to reply off-list.
What I think I understand so far.
Workstation Clients ???
Tier 1 - 1 ~ 4 processors on Intel 32bit hardware.
Tier 2 - RISC or Intel 64bit - I assume 5 ~ 8 processor 32bit Intel boxes
as well.
Tier 3 - Greater than 8 processor??
In Tivoli pricing land, what is considered a "server". For example, I
don't think an RS/6000 Model B50 (piece of junk) with a 9GB drive used for
development work should be a Tier 2 machine. I don't even consider it a
Tier 1 machine. Even though it runs DB2, it is basically a workstation.
How many points is each tier worth, and where do normal workstation
machines fit in?
How many points is the TSM server itself? on a tier 1 (NT) server? on a
tier 2 (AIX) server?
How many points are the Data Protection products, specifically Domino?
What about DB2, do you just buy enough points to cover the tier of the
machine? Even if there is no plan to backup "files"
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