Well, I have the advantage of working for a relatively small privately
held company. And all of my disk is raid-5 ESS, with multiple SAP and
Oracle instances spread across any given ESS volume set. So I don't need
to do anything on the disk; the data is sufficiently scrambled to make
meaningfull recovery not worth the effort (our direct competitors can
get most of the info by much easier techniques).

We dispose of used tape with a bandsaw; two right-angle cuts through the
cartridge, 'fluff' the resulting tape scraps, and dump (we never do just
one; we wait until we have three or four to do). 

We haven't lost a system volume on an RS-6000 or Intel server yet; I'm
not sure what I'd do in that case, although we have very little on
either over and above the base OS files.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Lamb, Charles P.
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Disposition of Failed Storage Devices

Mr. Kauffman...

How does your company handle the Disposition of Failed Storage Devices??
After further discussions with my boss, we have many camps with
differing points of view. 

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kauffman, Tom
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Disposition of Failed Storage Devices

Given the security group's position, I think your options are
sledghammer or iron smelter. And you'll really need to put everything
you've got into the sledgehammer, if you go that route. A thermal lance
or oxygen cutting torch might also fill the requirements.

I doubt you'll get anything in writing from either IBM or EMC that will
be satisfactory. You'll also need to get quotes from both on how much
the maintenance fees will increase if the failed media device is
rendered non-salvageable before return.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Lamb, Charles P.
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Disposition of Failed Storage Devices

Hi............

Our IT management is looking at implementing a process for disposition
of failed storage devices. We have a hardware contract with both IBM and
EMC.  Our IT management is not sure that our data would be secured and
deleted correctly.  

Here is an excerpt from our security group.

>From my perspective, what we have from IBM/EMC so far isn't sufficient.
My opinion is that in order for us to consider a vendor's approach
suitable- there needs to be more focus on data breach law compliance
support.  For example, if we can confirm that their approach (or related
optional enhancements) is audited, secured, traceable,
employee/subcontractor vetting/background checking, and includes
appropriate notification of potential data breach, etc and that their
program is also periodically third party audited (& ideally court case
tested).. we're in a much better position. If/when they notify us of
loss, we also would need full cooperation in related investigation
efforts and confirming ultimate disposition.

Your company's process would be appreciated. Thoughts??  Tnx's a bunch
for your input. 
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