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On 16 Jun 2010, at 15:07, empty2 <[email protected]> wrote:
Happiness is the flip-side of unhappiness. Seeing one means seing the
other = dvaita.
Does the happiness of giving depend on the existence of unhappiness
(in self or others) for its enjoyment?
Advaita-wise, the ever-abiding sky remains untouched by the passing
clouds of happiness and unhappiness, which are in essence nothing but
ephemeral forms appearing in and of that non-attached sky itself.
This is not to say that, possessed by 'I am' in this embodied state of
consciousness, one should not act spontaneously and naturally in
helping 'others' as the need arises...... but to depend for one's
happiness on the continued existence of those 'less fortunate'........
could be said to be somewhat 'demonaic'!
Sri Ramakrishna and Mother Theresa defined the path of helping others
as service to the divine Self/God within all...... and its joy
expressed as gratitude for the opportunity to be of such service.
On Jun 16, 6:58 pm, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
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To give the starving, food. does this create happiness.
This question is for those actions of both the giving and
receiving. ???
Who can deny the greedy when they say they are happy ???
This hinges on that sacred law “ignorance is bliss” but who
can say
they are pure ignorance ???
Are we the corruption of bliss, happiness and/or ignorance.
Does mother nature contemplate happiness ??
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On Jun 16, 12:39 pm, empty2 <[email protected]> wrote:
This thread begs the question, "What is happiness?"
- other than the opposite of unhappiness - it's ever-present
polarity.
That should bring the conversation straight back to advaita!
Wanting or not wanting are both states of unhappiness, imo.
The only safe place is the borderline between the two..... neither
wanting nor not wanting what is....
Consciousness + objects is 'I am'.
Without preferences, there is no game for 'I am' to play.
When 'I am not', whether anything/everything is or isn't =
happiness.
On Jun 15, 9:15 pm, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
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Yes ……… this is it.
Each one of us, each morning awakens into a new conscious
awareness.
Given a simple tool box of abilities, understandings and
memory. We
embark on a new day.
In this we sub-consciously decide who and what this day means to
us.
Only in this sense are we the creator of the world we experience.
This is the power of “I am” and I am going to be in this day,
anything I dam well choose.
My advice, Choose happiness it feels like a lot more fun and
tends to
attract happiness, ware-as if one chooses misery the same rule
applies. Misery attracts misery.
It’s all an illusion in real terms, but real terms wont assis
t you in
having a good day.
The greatest lesson of them all. The skill and craft of having a
good day.
Being whole, Advaita.
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On Jun 15, 2:07 pm, empty2 <[email protected]> wrote:
I have no proof that I did not just appear POOF with all my
apparent
fixed ways of being and beleiefs and apparent circumstances.
........ the complete 'package' including a set of memories, all
the
concepts of time, the universe etc
...... as 'this'?
Sure, why not? Awakening into a dream that never was.
On Jun 15, 7:17 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote:
I am saying I don't know what I am doing here.
I am saying living a long life and having many experiences
arises as
empowering for most people and non-people :-)
It appears to be right and has value so I must be a person
experiencing survival?
I have no proof that I did not just appear POOF with all my
apparent
fixed ways of being and beleiefs and apparent circumstances.
Perhaps there is something to work out here?
Sausages?
On 15 June 2010 13:05, Hughes, Marcus
<[email protected]> wrote:
Are you saying your life is a race toward death ??
Does this also apply to me ?
Sounds like Suicide is the solution.
Quick fix, but what will you learn ??
Marcus Hughes. IEng MIET
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Building Control Group.
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From: [email protected]
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Sent: 15 June 2010 12:58
To: Hughes, Marcus
Cc: Advaita-Zen
Subject: Re: .. Why happinesss ...
Who knows which way is up?
Happiness is less stressful on the physical being than anger
or gloominess.
Apparently happy people live longer, make more money and so on.
If the goal of life is death and returning to the source though?
Who is winning the race?
On 15 June 2010 12:50, Marcus <[email protected]>
wrote:
.. Why happinesss ...
Is it worth it ? some people clearly want to be miserable.
They have a divine right to misery and rightly so. As a
human being
I know of my gloomy default settings of misery and constantly
work
hard to balance my views to enjoy this day. I have seen the
darkness
of a sceptical attitude and hope to find a better way.
Is it just me or is happiness a serious business worth
working hard
for ????
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