Thanks for the beautiful post. I must say you sound a bit like UG. Of course that is meant to be a compliment. : )
Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: Kuber Technologies <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:22:17 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Why charisma? Hi Marko, On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Some people (in advaita usually gurus) have special power (not > supernatural) while they talk. They have the ability of convincing the > listener they are saying the 'truth'. Like singers or actors, some of them > just have that magic which attracts people's attention no matter what they > say/do. > It is not special power. It is not charisma. It is an utter lack of investment, stake and even interest.....displayed .......as to whether the seeker/audience in front........."GETS IT", "does not GET IT", agrees/disagrees, accepts or rejects..... .......whatever that is getting articulated in words or in silence...........in and as the moment. This presentation of a total vacancy.........attracts, invokes, communes, entices. > Why is this important in advaita? > Advaita is not a system, not a belief, not a organization(even though in it's name, much hoopla gets to take place) ...... .....such that something is important and something else is not. An organization, no matter under what name..........has stuff which is important, crucial for it's existence and for it's perpetuation. In and as not-twoness...........what can be of importance? In and as not-twoness what can be of not importance? What can be a separative goal/destination/objective..............such that the concept of importance/relevance/significant...........or their counterparts.........can be of any relevance? In and as not-twoness...........who is to be instructed, guided on the right beliefs, aka the belief of not-twoness.? In and as not-twoness............who is to charm whom, such that charisma could at be of any relevance? > Because if I want to get rid of the 'false' beliefs which I got from my > parents/school (which are strongly fixed from childhood for 30 y or so) I > have to trust the guru who (with his words and presence) says to me these > beliefs to be B.S. > That Guru which pontificates about some beliefs being BS and hence to replace them with another set.. ...is a prime example of himself/herself being BS. Ideas...........no matter how deep, how profound, how wide encompassing.... ....are all fluff in the domain of mentation. There are no true ideas. There are no false ideas, either. "True" and "false" are themselves ........ideations. > I simply have different trust in different people's words. Why? > Because of that charisma, that ability to convince me they are truthful. > All convictions are time bound.........fluff .........in the domain of mentation. As the convictions evaporate.......and there is no conviction which does not in time.. ...so does the trustworthy icon. > Example: > If I say something or if Nisargadatta says the same shit you would > certainly be more affected by his words, right? > What will affect..........each and every nuance of your world...including all the characters inhabiting that world ........ ...is when you chuck that Blackberry into the nearest dustbin. Followed by the mental Blackberry.
