.

We travel through difficulties and dangers to arrive at true knowledge of the 
self.   This process is sometimes brutal.  But I learnt enough to say.  The 
more painful the lesson the greater the value.   Providing you survive.

I think you know what I mean.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Ty-Wharton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 28 July 2010 15:07
To: Hughes, Marcus
Cc: Advaita-Zen
Subject: Re: Words

You too :-)

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On 28 Jul 2010, at 11:42, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> .
>
> A mind filled with alcohol gives a distorted impression of now.
> Sometimes unable to talk or walk correctly it misinterprets most of
> what it observes.
>
> Please trust me  .............   I have been there ...............  messy 
> extreme.
>
>
> .
> On Jul 28, 11:17 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You cannot get reality.Already you are that.
>> Getting that,the distorted mind,un-distorts.
>>
>> On Jul 28, 5:09 am, godszen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mark Ty-Wharton  wrote:
>>>> Like Zen, there is nothing to get in Zen
>>
>>>> The struggle is created by the master such that the student seeks 
>>>> (enlightenment) in desperation
>>
>>>> Eventually the master leads the student right back to where they started
>>
>>>> They get "there is nothing to get"
>>
>>>> Advaita?
>>
>>>> There really is NOTHING to get
>>
>>> reality is what there is to get.
>>> imagination is what's to be given up
>>
>>> the twisted up, distorted mind
>>> has to relax, and get the wrinkles out- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -


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