Apple juice

Okay - very Edenic :-)

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On 28 Jul 2010, at 10:30, [email protected] wrote:

> That was not the point. You can use apple juice instead of alcohol in the 
> same text.
> The point was:
> '...no matter what'
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:18:43 
> To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
> Cc: Advaita<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Words
> 
> Alcohol is pleasurable?
> 
> I disagree
> 
> Alcohol dulls dis-pleasure giving illusory pleasure
> 
> Same with nicotine 
> 
> Not much happens when you have the first cigarette, it is the satisfaction of 
> the craving for the next that gives the illusion of pleasure
> 
> Like Zen, there is nothing to get in Zen
> 
> The struggle is created by the master such that the student seeks 
> (enlightenment) in desperation
> 
> Eventually the master leads the student right back to where they started
> 
> They get "there is nothing to get"
> 
> Advaita?
> 
> There really is NOTHING to get
> 
> We are playing a mind game here that simply teaches us we can choose our 
> emotional state at any given moment
> 
> ANGRY, SAD
> 
> So what!
> 
> Enjoy it or give it up
> 
> It is all the same
> 
> Mark
> 
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> 
> On 28 Jul 2010, at 08:58, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> The water remain water no matter if bubbles arise. Bubbles are 'one with' 
>> water. They appear, disappear.
>> It's the same here. You are 'one with' words. 
>> Water remains water if it is muddy (suffering) or crystal clear(absence of 
>> suffering).
>> Water remains water if there is alcohol dissolved in it (pleasure) or not 
>> (absence of pleasure)
>> Water remains water no matter what.
>> 
>> Just my daily metaphor... 
>> 
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