Looking back at it, I think my message was a bit gay.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:06 AM, roomsearching <[email protected]>wrote:

> Amazing stories. I love these little zen stories with great messages.
> My inner guru must have been a Zen master in the past life.
> Everytime I read a Zen story, he becomes extremely excited.
>
> To demonstrate the concept of destroying duality, Japanese kill whales
> these days.
> That way, people will stop having debates and arguments about  whether
> endangered species should be protected.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> The koan “Nansen Cuts the Cat in Two” is, as I see it, one of the most
>> important koans ever. It not only reveals the deepest of the Zen of
>> Hui-neng, but it also depicts the main conflict within Zen, that is to say
>> the friction between the Gradual and the Sudden Schools during the Tang and
>> Sung years.What comes first, Sunyata or Prajna? The koan gives a lucid
>> answer, an answer that divided Zen into Soto and Rinzai.
>>
>> *Nansen Cuts the Cat in Two (The Gateless Gate, Case 14; translated by
>> Koun Yamada. Center Publications 1979)*
>>
>> *The Case*
>>
>> Once the monks of the eastern and western Zen halls were quarreling about
>> a cat. Nansen held up the cat and said, “You monks! If one of you can say a
>> word, I will spare the cat. If you can’t say anything, I will put it to the
>> sword.” No one could answer, so Nansen finally slew it. In the evening, when
>> Joshu returned, Nansen told him what had happened. Joshu, thereupon, took
>> off his sandals, put them on his head and walked off. Nansen said, “If you
>> had been there, I could have spared the cat.”
>>
>> *Mumon’s Commentary*
>>
>> What is the meaning of Joshu’s putting his sandals on his head? If you can
>> give a turning word concerning this matter, you will be able to see that
>> Nansen’s command was not meaningless. But if you can’t, look out! Danger!
>>
>> *The Verse*
>>
>> Had Joshu been there He would have given the command instead Had he
>> snatched away the sword, Even Nansen would have begged for his life.
>>
>> *Why does Nansen kill the cat?*
>>
>> Nansen cuts off the entangled discussion of the monks by using “the sword
>> of Prajna”. Nansen’s sword points to Prajna or wisdom. Nansen is the
>> Bodhisattva Manjushri.
>>
>> Manjushri’s most dynamic attribute is his Vajra sword. The sword cuts
>> through ignorance and the entanglements of conceptual views. It cuts away
>> ego and self-created obstacles. It can cut things in two, but it can also
>> cut into one, by cutting the self-other dichotomy. It is said the sword can
>> both give and take life.
>>
>> *Verse 31 from Yoka Daishi’s “Song Of Enlightenment”:*
>>
>> A man of great will carries with him a sword of Prajna, Whose flaming
>> Vajra-blade cuts all the entanglements of knowledge and ignorance; It not
>> only smashes in pieces the intellect of the philosophers But disheartens the
>> spirit of the evil ones.
>>
>> So when Nansen kills the cat he points to non-duality. To show the monks
>> that Zen is not based on words, he points to emptiness of thought by cutting
>> the cat in two, that is, cutting LOGIC thus conveying non-thought or
>> non-duality. Nansen tries to remove the dual and logic thinking of the
>> monks.
>>
>> The problem with logic is, that logic is relative, not absolute. What is
>> logical depends on where one is in time and space. So there is not one
>> absolute logic, there are many “logics”. What is evident seen from one
>> position is not evident seen from another position, hence logic is not logic
>> but conflict. There IS nothing high or low, right or wrong. High or low and
>> wright or wrong are concepts, the result of comparison not reality itself.
>> That means our “logical” conclusions are conditioned and relative and this
>> is the main source of illusions, conflicts, suffering and war.
>>
>> But it is Joshu not Nansen who knows the true method of how to use the
>> sword of Prajna. Why could the answer of Joshu have saved the cat’s life?
>> Because Joshu demonstrates his method is superior to that of Nansen. Nansen
>> makes the mistake of not only negating words but also of negating forms. He
>> is actually killing life through his method of total negation of both words
>> and forms. Nansen’s sword of negation becomes a pointer to nothingness, not
>> to emptiness, that is, wu-nien, no thought. The way of Nansen is nihilism,
>> the destruction of life.
>>
>> Moreover, Nansen is doing an act of will when he cuts duality, but using
>> will is the same as creating duality, a split between what ought to be and
>> what is. Instead cultivation must be carried out by non-cultivation. That is
>> what Joshu does. A mirror cannot be made by grinding a brick. The ordinary
>> way, the ordinary mind is the Way. The method of Nansen is
>> intellectualization which Zen utterly opposes, since intellectual efforts
>> create duality hence karma.
>>
>> Joshu knows that to gain true insight, negation (denial) of not only
>> thoughts but also of forms (appearences) only lead to nothingness. But
>> nothingness is a dual concept, an abstraction, since it can only exist
>> opposed to something. Hence negation of forms becomes denial of reality.
>> Forms are THE empty reality, they are “what is”. Form is emptiness and
>> emptiness is form Negation of forms is thus gazing at a void and reality
>> freezes into an abstraction of nothingness.
>>
>> Hui-neng clarified, that negation is crucial when it comes to words and
>> concepts, but it is a big mistake to use negation when it comes to conceive
>> reality as it is. To overcome such an extreme nihilism one has to use
>> NEGATION OF NEGATION that is, instead of excluding forms (negating
>> appearances) one has to include forms, that is, see thoughts (and cats) as
>> they appear in suchness, in a detached, empty manner.That is seeing, yet not
>> seeing. Its not pure negation, it is the middle way.
>>
>> See things as they appear,in emptiness, is seeing with MIND (Hsing), which
>> is very different from staring at a negated nothingness. The killing of the
>> cat is a negation of form, of life. Seeing life as it is, empty yet not
>> empty, is Prajna. Negating reality is the killing of life.
>>
>> Joshu experiences forms as functions of Mind, not as something which must
>> be cut to nothingness.Seeing with the eyes of Prajna is experiencing that
>> the spirituality of life is vital.
>>
>> Below is a small and incredible sharp mono on the difference between
>> seeing in nothingness and in emptiness.
>>
>> *A mondo on Prajna*
>>
>> Yunju was crossing the river with Dongshan.
>>
>> Dongshan said, “How deep is it?”
>>
>> Yunju said, “it’s not wet”
>>
>> Dongshan said, “You rustic!”
>>
>> Yunju said, “What would you say, Master?”
>>
>> Dongshan said, “Not dry” .
>>
>> The small mondo is beautiful and exceptionally sharp: “it’s not wet”
>> points to emptiness and “Not dry” points to Prajna (or Mind) because:
>>
>> “Not wet” leaves out anything, it points to nothingness. If not wet, then
>> what is it? There is no pointer to any reality. The negation is total.
>>
>> “Not dry” is not a total negation. “Not dry” points to water without using
>> the word “water”. The negation is just a negation of words but not of our
>> conscience, our mind. It is empty mind or emptiness.
>>
>> Hence “not wet” is not prajna, it is just pointing to nothingness, whereas
>> “not dry” is Prajna since it points to water, but not to the concept of
>> “water”. Hence it is “knowing in emptiness”. Knowledge not based on words
>> but on intuition is Prajna. It is the middle Way.
>>
>> So a NATURAL response to circumstances, not a response conditioned by the
>> intellect is the Way and that is the way of Joshu. Nansen represents the Zen
>> INTELLECT, while Joshu is the SPIRIT of Zen. Joshu puts the shoes on his
>> head thereby showing his empty innocence, while Nansen demonstrates his
>> rational goal and will by cutting the cat in two. In order to cut duality he
>> creates duality. The intellect IS dual. It is a killer because when one
>> chooses A one must logical reject (kill) B. The mistake of Nansen is his
>> choosing which is conditioned by his words. He had to kill the cat. Words
>> create their own reality.
>>
>> Why would even Nansen have begged for his life had Joshu snatched away the
>> sword? Because the ultimate truth cannot be reached with language,
>> doctrines, not even with negation. Prajna can only be reached with a Mind
>> totally devoid of any concepts, but not devoid of conscience. One has to
>> negate the the idea of oneself. Nansen has to turn the sword, the knife,
>> against the concept of himself not against a cat.
>>
>> A Japanese Zen Master in the Tokugawa period named Shido Bunan had a waka
>> poem:
>>
>> Die while alive, and be completely dead,
>> then do whatever you will, all is good.
>>
>> The koan is an attack on any tendency to intellectualize Zen. It is not an
>> incident that Nansen says “You monks! If one of you can say a word, I will
>> spare the cat. This “say a word” is the key to the main question of the koan
>> and the silence of Joshu is the answer of the koan. The koan is a defense of
>> the most ancient definition of zen: “A specific transmission outside
>> writings, no dependence with respect to words and letters ·”
>>
>> As formulated by Yi-hsuan:
>>
>> “Only do ordinary things with no special efforts, relieve your bowels,
>> pass water wear your clothes, eat your food, and, when tired, lie down!
>> Simple fellows will laugh at you, but the wise will understand.”
>>
>> The koan is deeply rooted in Hui-neng Zen with its emphasis on suchness
>> and Prajna as opposed to a more formalized type of Zen.The distinctions
>> between monastic authorities and lay followers and between Buddha and
>> ordinary being are here called into question by the person of Joshu who has
>> a striking similarity with Vimalakīrti, a layman and ordinary man of the
>> world who nevertheless rivals the Bodhisattva Mañjuśrī (Nansen) himself in
>> understanding.
>>
>> In essence, Vimalakirti (Joshu) clears up the confusions surrounding the
>> central Buddhist concept of emptiness, or voidness— presenting it not as
>> nihilism but rather “as the joyous and compassionate commitment to living
>> beings born form an unwavering confrontation with the inconceivable
>> profundity of ultimate reality.”
>>
>> The koan shows a turn in its presentation of the Mahāyāna teaching of
>> emptiness (śūnyatā). The koan is a homage to Joshu who demonstrates the
>> ‘thunderous silence of Vimalakīrti’ and the admiration is understandable.
>> The succinct and profound sayings and koans of Joshu are unsurpassable in
>> their Zen purity.
>>
>> However, there is a more genuine Zen way of expressing the meaning of
>> “Nansen kills the cat”, since koans are certainly not meant to be
>> interpreted but to be understood in suchness that is, as self-evident:
>>
>> *Cut words about what is, but do not cut what is.*
>>
>> The Haiku poet and Zen monk Basho is beautifully in accordance with this
>> principle:
>>
>> A flash of lightening:
>> throug the darkness goes
>> the cry of a night heron
>>
>> Note
>>
>> *It is not even worth discussing whether Nansen actually killed the cat
>> or not, since the killing of the cat is nothing but a pointer. “Killing the
>> cat” is Zen talk just like when Zen Master Lin Chi says, “If you meet the
>> Buddha, kill the Buddha. If you meet a Patriarch, kill the Patriarch.” Zen
>> sayings and koans use concrete phenomena as pointers to abstract principles
>> to avoid theorizing and speculations. Koans are always formulated concretely
>> not philosophical. They are upayic or pedagogic answers or stories by the
>> masters.*
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>> Vimalakirti in debate with the bodhisattva Manjusri, detail from a wall
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>> Dynasty, 8th century
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>> Date
>>
>> 8th century AD
>>
>> Source
>>
>> Scanned from Michael Sullivan’s The Arts of China: Fourth Edition (1999)
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>> Author
>>
>> Chinese artist
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