One needs to practice. But one must find a strong motivation for it. This comes 
with suffering.
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-----Original Message-----
From: godszen <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:03:02 
To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What is a still mind?

no, the momentum can be stopped

but it takes a lot of effort or mindfulness

to stop the automatic-thinking-cycle

On Aug 25, 2:42 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote:
> No
>
> Even when it is not thinking it is not still
>
> Even in hypnosis relaxation or sleep it is active
>
> Think of it like a constant sound
>
> If you were born into life with a washing machine running constantly you 
> would not know it was there till someone pointed it out to you
>
> After it is pointed out you will be over aware of it, it drives you nuts, you 
> think  you stopped it from time to time but it isn't you doing it, it is 
> arbitrary and it soon starts the next cycle
>
> Allowing yourself to become used to it such that you know it is there and it 
> is no longer intrusive is probably as good as it gets
>
> Sent from an iPhone
>
> On 25 Aug 2010, at 06:24, godszen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > can you still your mind?

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