> This,(by whatever term one wishes to call)...... is not about progressive
> learning in time.

If you use language to describe THIS then you bring it back into the
realms of time :-)

> Discovering adversity before it finds you.
>
>
> You never meet adversity.
>
>
> I would take adversity in this context to be a description of circumstance!
>
>
> A description of circumstances is a cognition of the circumstances as series
> of occurrences.
>
> To which the added flavour .........making the story as "favourable" or
> "adverse".

And nothing could ever adversely flavour your cognition?

> It is this sense of flavouring which is the sense of entitification.
>
> The entity never never meets the flavour.

No, it does - it is how it meets it and the significance it gives to
it that causes the suffering not the meeting itself.

WHEN ARE YOU LOT GOING TO WAKE THE FUCK UP AND GET THAT.

There is no you - FINE - what possible difference can a YOU making a
statement about there NOT being a YOU make?

It's fucking stupid calling itself stupid.

There will ALWAYS be a YOU - don't buy into this BLISS bullshit.

That's just more MORE or better BETTER or different DIFFERENT.

You are a bio-mechanical organism operating within certain parameters.

CHOOSE which of those parameters is significant YES.

But don't you GET IT.

There is still a YOU choosing for there not to be a YOU.

Give up the significance of this DUMB forum and the significance of a
conversation that gets to be RIGHT about Advaita or Zen and HELLO.

You might just get self-realisation.

Not like there is a YOU to get it.

Consider laughing at the irony of the cosmic joke.

If you GET IT you are laughing right now regardless of whether you
believe there is a YOU or not.

Beyond this point

Even the most seasoned Zen masters stumble on the reason for the outcome

Nondualistic language is simply bollocks

Buddha stared at the pole star and made up a story

Nisargaddata made up a story

Who cares about stories about who is right and who is wrong and what
language we should use to describe a human's understanding of it's
true nature

Stories make cults and religions

I SEE YOU!

I (yes me) like that one :-)

Next...

> The sense that the content of the moment....is adverse...........is the
> sense of a you.
>
> Discovering the enemy before it finds you
> Discovering old age before it finds you
> Discovering death before it finds you
>
>
> For the ideation that birth is a reality............for that ideation death
> is indeed a reality.
>
>
> Beyond the language of concepts lies the language of poets and musicians.
>
> I read blah blah blah as la la la - try that perspective before making
> him wrong - what he is saying works (for me)
>
>
> Which is absolutely fine.
>
> If it was simply  the case of "what was said worked for you"........your
> post would not have occurred.
> :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> But most of all, discovering who you are beyond forms and labels
>
>
> Which is to see that  forms/labels never had a reality to start with.
>
> Which makes a beyond as much an ideation.
>
>
> Who cares?
>
>
> Cool.
> Including about the very assertion.
>
>
> Why do you care?
>
> If the common goal is self-realisation try pointing more the way then :-)
>
>
> Who ever or whatever gave you the impression that self realization was a
> goal, let alone a common one,
> and which was the ostensible aim of any of this baloney.

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