Sound is a concept It occurs in human cognition
If nobody is there then there is no SOUND molecules resonated would be more accurate if one had to come up with a description On 3 September 2010 14:48, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > . > > The tree which fell in the forest and no one heard it. > > The presents of such a suggested noise is impersonal. > > Maybe ……………… ??? > > > . > > On 3 Sep, 14:16, fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> wrote: >> What is not impersonal presence? >> >> On Sep 3, 9:01 am, Sandeep-Kuber Technologies >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > fearlessinquirer wrote: >> > > By "impersonal presence" do you mean choiceless awareness? >> >> > No. >> >> > A presence in which there is no further labeling. >> >> > Including the label of "no further labeling". >> >> > Of course in the very referencing, a label as "presence" is being used. >> >> > > Can you sense that without being in relationship with that? >> >> > That is why........the earlier prattling.......it is to be found neither >> > in relationship nor in isolation. >> >> > The apperception of this........consumes even the attributed quality of >> > "findable". >> >> > > To be in >> > > relationship is to be without labeling the experience of being. >> >> > Well, that's a new connotation of the term "relationship". >> >> > Yes the absence of labeling, which is actually the absence of experiencing. >> >> > And since the absence of experiencing is also an experiencing..... >> >> > ....the absence of the presence of experiencing/labeling >> >> > AND >> >> > the absence of absence of the presence of experiencing/labeling. >> >> > > To >> > > sense that is to give that a quality, a perfume, a flavor... and >> > > certainly the instrument of perception, which is limited in itself, >> > > cannot make apparent that which is limitless. >> >> > Yes. >> >> > To sense is another way to say ......to experience. >> >> > And experience is in time, is of time. >> >> > Thus durational and thus limited. >> >> > Look at the term "limitless". >> >> > It is as much limited as any other terming. >> >> > That there is something as limitless.......is a thought within the >> > domain of limitation. >> >> > That-which-is...........is neither limited. >> >> > Nor limitless. >> >> > > Life is relationship. >> >> > Life, as typically or conventionally connoted.........is indeed a >> > collage of relationships. >> >> > As a display of what relationships could be like, if relationships could >> > ever be.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - -- mark ty wharton Technical Director (Music) The Open Boat Orchestra ___________________________________________________________________________________________ The contents of this email and the context of the message and any attachments are intended for the recipient only. You may not copy, or redistribute the contents of this email without the express, written consent of the author. mark ty-wharton is a composer, philosophical speaker and writer http://mark.ty-wharton.com @mark_tywharton
