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"The satguru is a title given specifically only to an enlightened
rishi/sant whose life's purpose is to guide initiated shishya along
the spiritual path, the summation of which is the realization of the
Self through realization of the God.

shishya  lineage, or parampara, denotes a succession of teachers and
disciples. It is considered that this relationship, based on the
genuineness of the guru, and the respect, commitment, devotion and
obedience of the student,"

Sorry but just have to research those loverly old definitions.

“the one who lives it, that knows more about the Sun-Shining-Presence
Self.”

Yes,   and further to this truth,   as witness of the universal
perfection.  It’s beauty- is it’s totality.  When the student is
ready, the shishya will appear and vice a versa.   These
classifications may manifest as homeless rednecks,  Indian Grugrus,
Computer nerds or Saints.

In a divinely perfect singularity ALL is in the right place.   This in
mind.   Why does one man (shishya man) say  “only by worshiping me can
enlightenment be found”

Adi Da Samraj  Quote  :- As such, Adi Da stated that devotional
worship of him is the sole means of spiritual enlightenment for
others.

Godzen,  in this mulity coloured rainbow of divine singularity the
truth is each one of us, rich or poor, student or shishya can say with
full and deep conviction    “only by worshiping me (self) can
enlightenment be found”

Know thy self ………………..   is a key.   A key which unlocks the magical
mysteries of this universe.   Self carries all humanly knowable
knowledge.   The astral plains of the inner-self and the multiple
realties of trance meditations are freely and equally available to ALL
human consciousness awareness.    “The kingdom of heaven is within
you”

Like the true teaching of  Moses, Jesus & Mohammed,  few people are
ready for the full responsibility of being human self realisation.

Does Adi Da Samraj know more about being Godzen then you ??   if so
then how come ???

Yes, I know your answer.   “it's the one who lives it, that knows more
about the Sun-Shining-Presence Self.”   Therefore the light of a
shishya  (whatever form)  has done it’s job.   Another being woke-up
to himself.

All is in divine order .................................   thnakfully.

Do you still follow any particular Guru or Shishya  ???


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On Oct 20, 8:50 am, godszen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Marcus wrote:
> > Are you suggesting that the man in this recoding, or any human, can or
> > become a  “enlightened soul without a body”
>
> > Please, Please explain.  Are you referring to an a memory of awareness
> > before a human incarnation ?    Not to be confused with past life
> > regression because this of course would once again involve human
> > incarnation.  It fascinates me how conscious awareness can be
> > attributed to non-human dimensions.
>
> you are a Sun, and that Sun shines awarenes
>
> > Is it always humans that report on such a non-human condition ?
>
> how else to communicate with other humans?
>
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > Who has the true right to say they know more than another ???
>
> > “someone who does?”   yes of course,  a very clever tactical response
> > which avoids the question......
>
> no, it's a simple direct answer
>
> > Interesting how we use politics even in
> > response to profound questions.
>
> would you prefer; "who's asking the question?"
>
> > Reworded question. ::
> > How can one human sentient being know more about self awareness then
> > another  human sentient being  ???
>
> they hang out with a satguru until they become one
>
> > Please remember in a universal singularity (Advaita) all is one, no
> > separations.
> > Human sentient beings are not separated.   They are One mind.
>
> but until one lives that reality, it is only an idea,
> and it's the one who lives it, that knows more about
> the Sun-Shining-Presence Self.

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