Sorry. The Absolute state is not a belief. Who told you it is a belief ? It
is not an experience. It is an eternal state in which you are all the time.
Have you gone beyond the "I am" ? If not agree that you are ignorant and
dwell in the "I am" until it disappears and the Absolute is reached.

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In this Brahman, everything is illusion, but who understands that ? The
principle that understands, realizes, and witnesses is the Parabrahman.
Witnessing happens to the Parabrahman. In this manifest state, everything is
ever-changing, nothing is permanent and all is illusion.
 - Nisargadatta (Seeds of Consciousness)

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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>wrote:

> a personal opinion
>
> I think advaita has a concept about what exists prior to "I am" which in
> itself is dogmatic and I invite you not to let it become a 'belief'
>
> an experience that we are all one is simply an experience
>
> there is something else to get when you don't know
>
> not knowing is paradoxical
>
> like the concept of anti-finite is more accurate than zero or infinite
>
> anti-matter may be a more accurate description than no thing
>
> I am NOT that that I am NOT
>
> in the end there is no 'real' me
>
>  hope that clears that up :)
>
> On 21 March 2011 17:03, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The message "I Am" is time bound. The principle to which "I Am" refers to
>> is beyond time, timeless, eternal.
>> The witnessing of the manifest world happens to that Ultimate principle.
>> When you observe something, you receive it, record it and deliberate over
>> it; therefore you are involved in it.
>> The Ultimate does not receive or record the passing show.
>>
>>  - Nisargadatta Maharaj (from Seeds of Consciousness)
>>
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>> What you people are calling as real is just the manifest world.
>> Manifestation is observed by the manifest "I am".
>> But the Absolute which supports the "I am" is unmanifested. The ego itself
>> is a manifestation and your egos think that the illusion is real.
>> Manifestation = illusion = unreal.
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>>

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