*Advaita leaves you in reality where you will have no further questions. *

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:

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> “So Advaita could be said to be the infinite expression of an end to
> suffering?”
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> Yes, in a fashion …………
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> Suffering as the Buddha teaches, is a condition created and
> perpetuated by the human mind.  To free the mind from suffering is to
> retrain the mind to look at this experience of self in a new way.
> One of the many recommendations was/is to re-examine this moment and
> how we co-exist in an impossible balance of circumstance.   Our
> thoughts, our feeling are no different to the impossibility of the
> conditions of this plant and solar system.  So finely balanced that
> one small shift in temperature or rotational spine and all we
> currently know ends and a new circumstance begins.   Our illusion of
> free-will and existence, could and in fact will one day, change in an
> instant.  These are our precarious circumstance.  Advaita invites the
> mind to examine the bigger picture of our being.  To step beyond the
> confines of our simple survival and imagine the whole of this
> universal circumstance.
>
> It can-not be an end to suffering because the as long as there is
> humans, there will be human suffering.   But it can guide the
> individual to reconstruct their interpretations of this our experience
> of being human.
>
> My experience of this affect is to minimise suffering.  To reduce its
> effect to the point where suffering becomes just the bumps along the
> road of this, our wondrous adventure.
>
> Non-duality is simply to know that the bumps and the road are one,
> whole.  Ultimately, As is all the conditions we experience.
> Happiness needs unhappiness.   Suffering needs joy.  Not opposite but
> the compliments of a whole.
>
> Infinite because the human mind, spirit and soul remain undefined
> …………. Yet we all have them.  We all feel them every day.
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> On Apr 12, 1:04 pm, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Thanks Mark,
> >
> > We agree in different ways.
> >
> > Sounds good to me ………your words are much better then mine, but of
> > course I make no judgement.
> >
> > “The purpose of a motor car is transportation.”
> >
> > Using this expression as your core principle.
> >
> > While it’s correct to say  ““The purpose of a motor car is
> > transportation.” There are clearly many other purposes for a car.  To
> > sustain business.  To advertise status.  To cherish in a museum, to be
> > crushed into granules and recycled into a computer.
> >
> > Exploring Advaita has no absolutes.  Purpose has no absolutes.   Love
> > has no absolutes.  Fear, Hope, Beauty, Anger, Stupidity, Happiness,
> > Depression.   Etc, Etc,   these human conditions are not finite.
> >
> > In Opinion   -:-
> > All of these intangible Human conditions are created my the
> > individual, suffer or enjoyed by the individual and ultimately
> > destroyed by the individual.    The purpose of such conditions must
> > clearly be defined by the individual who makes manifest.  No
> > individual can completely or fully appreciate the conditions of
> > another.  Therefore Only the individual can fully know and experience
> > their conditions of purpose, Fear, Hope, Beauty, Anger, Stupidity,
> > Happiness, Depression.   Etc, Etc,
> >
> > Unlike the car which came with a manual and a tangible purpose.
> > Humans have only themselves to examine and fully understand and
> > trust.
> >
> > Advaita – only points to an very old understanding of all the universe
> > being instrumental in a synchronised momentary event, known as this
> > now.  Like a light beacon in a stormy sea it directs the heart and
> > mind to look and think about this now in a new way.   Instead of
> > seeing this world as separates, past, future, my stuff, your stuff,
> > big and small.   Advaita says look again.  Look deeper.  Listen
> > harder.
> >
> > All is not what it seems ………..
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Apr 12, 11:38 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > On 11 April 2011 11:57, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > You have to go beyond the blah blah blah to understand the Self.
> > > > Be perfectly silent. When awakening happens, you will know what the
> Self
> > > > is.
> >
> > > sounds like you are limited by what you think self is?
> >
> > > surely awakening is knowing what self is not
> >
> > > I am not the body, mind, thoughts or feelings
> >
> > > In that freedom and even that is not who or what I am- Hide quoted text
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