Yes it is unfortunate that I played into your prejudice of database administrators/analysts or whatever by letting my contempt show, and I was wrong for saying developers with out some or many (especially since I still am one). My comments do not imply that I don't care about the application code. One of my complaints concerns the lack of teamwork and we did hire a decent developer recently. I can't help it that many / most developers (or DBA's) for that matter don't care about their work, don't use the resources available to educate themselves and keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Like I said in an earlier post there are still way too many people in this field that need to get out. I have had the same problem when I didn't do any database work and had to do code review of my peers at my last job.
So I guess we should stop complaining about people by title and agree that we don't like people that can't or won't do their job. I like Jeff Little 's post and if I could write that well and weren't so frustrated with my job(s) and this industry maybe this thread would be much shorter. >Jeff Little Let's face it, the folks who post here are all pretty much on the ball in terms of knowledge, interest and dedication. We can differ on details, but we are all coming from a pretty solid knowledge base. There are legions of folks who don't share that dedication, interest or knowledge, as has been pointed out, and they can poison the water for the rest of us. > I think this sums it up quite well. To be quite honest my contempt stems from the poor work ethic from people in general not just in this business. I despise poor quality work and bad attitudes period. Tim Flory Sr Programmer Analyst Phone: 216.464.2244 ext. 229 www.medquist.com This electronic mail transmission contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by another person is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, promptly delete it and all attachments. "Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics." <[email protected]> wrote on 09/15/2005 11:03:37 AM: > Tim, > > >> > What I find hard to understand is that you really don't give a > >> > **** about the application your procs are part of, as it seems. That's > > >> Not sure how you got that out my comments. I said I had no > > Here's exactly how we all got that out of your comments: > > >> Sure it does since the developers have to submit their stored procs to > >> me to be applied ;-) I have no control what they do in their crappy code > > See? "Their" crappy code, "your" beautiful database(s). > > A few posts ago I mentioned that DBAs tend to treat programmers as "nerds > over at R&D who can never meet a deadline and whose purpose in life seems to > be breaking compatibility with the DBA's pet legacy databases". You just > validated this statement. > > >> Sr Programmer Analyst > > But of course. > > > K. > > =================================== > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com > > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
