At 12.52 -0500 2000.06.16, Tushar Samant wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Nathan Torkington wrote:
>>I think both approaches have their place.  The hacker style (no
>>bullshit, no politics) is good for problem solving, but is lousy for
>>dealing with management who have fears, desires, and a need to feel
>>important and smart.
>
>Correct (or, I agree). The childishness consists of thinking that
>the qualities which succeed in the programming domain succeed in
>the world at large. Further childishness is also seen: being
>proud of the fact that they aren't suceeding in a messy world
>after all.

What is childish is believing that because we live and act 
differently from you, that therefore we are childish or immature. 
This is the attitude that is offensive and clearly wrong.  Many of us 
have chosen this "way to be" because we find it to more pleasant and 
livable and reasonable.  I am proud to be successful without having 
to act in a particular way that I find distasteful.  That is 
something that makes me feel good about my life.  I see nothing 
childish in that at all.  It is kinda what being free is about.

I personally think the "plotical" method of communication is far more 
childish than this one.  Always trying to hide something, always 
trying to pump someone else up, always playing games.

Further, for many of us this no-bullshit, no-politics manner DOES 
work "in the world at large."  I am not talking about the stuff on 
Slashdot screaming "Micro$hit sucks!," I am talking about telling 
people exactly what your opinion is without worrying about whether or 
not it is going to make them feel good about decisions they've 
already made.  It is intelligently telling the straight truth without 
fear of consequences.  It works when I talk to my bosses, it works 
when I talk to my local government, it works around many of the 
people I know.  For some people, those who prefer to play games, it 
does not.  I prefer not to have many dealings with those kinds of 
people.

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