Hi,

That's correct, synonyms can be filtered out by using the
NgramGroupsSearchParameter.

Best,
- Eric

On Nov 12, 6:41 am, keesjan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> thanks. As I understand now, there is no filter to set synonyms off or
> on.
> I certainly agree there is much more controle in teh v2009 api and
> thats great!
> Default the api gives synonyms and then with the
> NgramGroupsSearchParameter 'call' we can delete the synonyms by
> getting rid of all the
> non-stam Ngram groups and the  'others' category?
> Is that correct?
>
> On Nov 10, 6:27 pm, AdWords API Advisor <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > As I mentioned previously, the TargetingIdeaService does not behave
> > exactly the same as the Search-based Keyword Tool in the web
> > interface.  I would recommend you run some tests with the service, as
> > I think you will find that you have much more control over the results
> > returned than is available the web interface.
>
> > Returning synonyms is the default behavior in the API, and the use of
> > the NgramGroupsSearchParameter can be used to require that the seed
> > keyword appear in the results.
>
> > Best,
> > - Eric
>
> > On Nov 9, 3:24 pm, keesjan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > and one more thing:
> > > can you explain the difference in calculated search volume?
>
> > > Can you also confirm the 'search for synonyms' function is not there
> > > anymore where it was in the KeywordToolService api?
>
> > > On Nov 9, 9:17 pm, keesjan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I luckily see more results when logged in. But still the synonyms are
> > > > not in!
> > > > Also when using a site with all the same html titles without any clue,
> > > > the tool cannot get anything out of that. The 'old' tool did a better
> > > > job!
> > > > Please pass this on to the engineers...
>
> > > > On Nov 9, 6:10 pm, AdWords API Advisor <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > Thank you for providing detailed information about your concerns.  To
> > > > > confirm, the existing KeywordToolService is deprecated and will be
> > > > > sunset on April 22, 2010.  The Search-Based Keyword Tool has a
> > > > > different method of calculating search volume, which is why the
> > > > > results may differ ( 
> > > > > seehttp://www.google.com/support/sktool/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=114875
> > > > > ).
>
> > > > > The TargetingIdeaService, though based on similar technology, behaves
> > > > > a little differently from the Search-based Keyword Tool.  A quick test
> > > > > showed that it returned many results for "cateraar", including the
> > > > > plural form.  Please give this service a try and let me know if you
> > > > > have any specific problems.
>
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > > > > On Nov 9, 6:46 am, keesjan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > The api for the 
> > > > > > keywordtoolhttps://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
> > > > > > will be depreciated
> > > > > > We have to use the sk tool  http://www.google.com/sktool/fromnowon.
>
> > > > > > The tools work in a different way and I dont like that.
> > > > > > When having a new client thats not operation Adwords right now and
> > > > > > have a site with all the same html titles the new tool gives back 
> > > > > > poor
> > > > > > results.
> > > > > > example:http://www.begroep.nl/settings:dutch/netherlands
>
> > > > > > gives back zerro 
> > > > > > resultshttp://www.google.com/sktool/?pli=1#keywords?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.be...
>
> > > > > > with 1 keyword entered: it gives back only 9 keywords, not even the
> > > > > > plural form 
> > > > > > 'cateraars':http://www.google.com/sktool/?pli=1#keywords?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.be...
>
> > > > > > Now the results form the old tool. I yust entered 'cateraar' leave 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > use synonims checked
> > > > > >  and get back: 200+ resutls, including plurals.
>
> > > > > > Also the data differ:
> > > > > > 'cateraar' last month search volume in old tool is for exact 720 and
> > > > > > for broad 6600
> > > > > > 'cateraar' monthly searches in new sk tool is 350 and not sure if 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > is for exact or broad
>
> > > > > > So the data differ, get back less resutls and nu plurals nor 
> > > > > > synonyms.
>
> > > > > > Can you confirm that the old api for the 'old' KeywordToolExternal
> > > > > > really will be depreciated? This gives us a lot of headaches.

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