On 14/4/08 21:55, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Re: "and that the discussion is proving fruitless." > > What would be fruitful? If I agreed with you? No, such is a surely banal response. > In matters > such as this there is no question of convincing the other > person. Only the music can do the persuasion. Jazz has > persuaded me - not to like it. No, jazz is as much as the term classical music is; it encompasses a wealth of musical practices and engagements among musicians and audience. Some are unimaginative others are not. I would not dismiss all classical music on the basis of lack of interest on my part for any particular range of its manifestations. Viewed from a distance a landscape merge into its primary forms, shapes and colours, the closer one moves towards that landscape the more subtle variations and textures begin to become striking. Viewing jazz or baroque music from a distance of disinterest is hardly an appropriate method to evaluate either. I doubt if you have heard the performances of the magnificent pianist John Law, or have you? Are you aware of the compositional approaches of someone like Barry Guy, or the work of the Instant Composers Pool, or work like Bobby Previte's The 23 Constellations of Juan Miro, or the likes of French bassist Joelle Leandre. Or the work of Louis Sclavis, e.g., Napoli's Walls, or of the Swedish pianist Bobo Stenson. Are you aware of the rich variety of musics and sound textures they produce and the methods whereby they do so? Or how about the music of Ab Baars and Ig Henneman, particularly their Floating Worlds Ensemble, are you aware of such? If yes and you are dismissing this music on the basis of knowledge, then your views are stronger than if you are dismissing them without knowing simply because you have placed them into your box of object for contempt with the word Jazz emblazoned on the outside, not as imaged by Matisse. If you are dismissing it simply on the basis of putting into the box for contempt because the word jazz is associated with it, then this discussion is going nowhere... A few links: http://www.bobbyprevite.com/miro.html Joelle Leandre: http://www.efi.group.shef.ac.uk/mleandre.html Peter Kowald: http://www.efi.group.shef.ac.uk/mkowald.html Irene Schweitzer and Carl Rudiger: http://www.efi.group.shef.ac.uk/video/vschwei1.mov Ab Baars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbmT2HfNz0w Louis Sclavis: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Louis+Sclavis&search_type= ICP- Monk's Mood: ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Bx3hwfmzw Enough is enough of the discussion, for the music the above is only a few fragments loosed from an iceberg. Toodle-pip, Allan.
