So if I admire a novel, piece of music, or painting and
think it is great art and all my 'buddies' don't, I am wrong
- if not mentally disturbed??

DA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frances Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [???] RE: Music and all that jazz
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:25:48 -0400

> Frances to Derek and others... 
> 
>  
> 
> My insistence on the need for some relevant communal group
> to make tentative determinations about what might be good
> and best in regard to the issue at hand is based on the
> pragmatist assumption that the determinations made by a
> sole individual person alone or a sole communal people
> alone is simply not reliable, at least when it comes to
> issues of some import in say religion and art and tech and
> polity and philosophy and science. It is an agreed
> consensus of contingent opinion amongst reasonable experts
> that will be held as good, which they ought to eventually
> arrive at via consistent and persistent inquiry. The group
> may not always get it exactly right every time, but then
> that is evolution for you. Human thinkers who are rational
> and reasonable make good guesses most of the time, and in
> groups this natural inborn tendency is exemplified. The
> good after all is as it is given and found and as they get
> it and take it, rather than what they wish or will or want
> or even need. What the members of any group must resist
> among other things is the risk of becoming proud to be a
> member of that group. This kind of intolerance often
> excludes others to the detriment of wise determinations.
> The trick is to cleanse and purge rigid dogmatic beliefs
> from the minds of groups, and do it well and often. One
> way to do this is with semiotics via the ongoing
> interpretation or deconstruction of engrained paradigms. 
> 
>  
> 
> On my using the primitive example that the least of a
> "group" may simply be the buddies of a sick person who is
> suffering a mental disturbance and afflicted with
> imaginary fantasies or deluded illusions that are real
> enough but that he wrongly considers as factual and actual
> and concrete, is not to suggest that a deference or
> preference on the part of a well person indicates they may
> be suffering from a mental disturbance, but it is to
> suggest that the individual adopted choice may be
> communally agreed as bad or wrong. The best example that
> the most a group might be seems found in the realm of
> science, which activity in its presence is an evolutionary
> exemplar of what is basically good. In other words, all
> humans are genetically related as one systemic family,
> therefore the task of making smaller groups to serve
> specific functions that are wise ought not be difficult. 

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