On 17/4/08 18:53, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Allan wrote: 'No, wrong, I do not believe so. There is no
> need to jump from good reason to absolute values. Reason is
> a collectively arrived at procedure,..."
> 
> Shades of Frances's learned experts! If only one knew who
> they were ...
> 

Not necessarily, not unless we determine that the capacity to reason alone
makes the expert. The use of reason is not confined to experts, though
experts in a field are probably more likely, not necessarily, to have a more
rigorous use of reason in that field due to repeat practice and accumulated
knowledge. However, narrowness of expertise may also come to partly
undermine the the rigour of reason in the field of expertise.

 
> Allan and I will have to keep disgreeing about jazz forever,

That does not embrace the full range of useful possibilities? there more
possible outcomes than agreement or disagreement, some are better than this,
some can be worse. There is also the potential that by engaging with the
breadth of the discussion both of us may be enriched without agreement that
jazz is in all its manifestations another one of the fallen or elected
artistic practices.

Moreover, I accepted the implication that the term jazz refers to some
meaningful entity, when in fact jazz is more of commercial label for
shelving and selling purposes. It is perhaps not quite as absurd as the term
World Music (Which music is not world Music? I have heard music of the
planets, but have not heard music from other than this world.), but it is
not always accepted by the musicians who are considered to play jazz;
Charlie Parker or one said he played music, and tried to make good music.

Toodle-Pip,

Allan.

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