Finally Frances agrees with me that art is and will always  be
endless categories of fuzzy subjective Expressions of what
we sense from nature that are called art.
mando

On Apr 22, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Frances Kelly partially  wrote:


Frances replies with the following list of realist and pragmatist
notions. This all goes to the attempted building of a phenomenal
system with a categorical structure by Peircean philosophers.

(1)

The agreed expert opinion of any collective communal group is
necessary, but it must remain tentative, because the determinism
will always be fallible due to the growing process of evolution,
in that the human mind can only interpret what it determines to
be so, whether the object of interest might be objective or
subjective. To merely hold or deem a thing as so by custom or
coercion or control does make it so. It must be found as a fact
of law, inductively and empirically. In this way the feeling for
the thing is made known. It may be of course that many persons
like groups and families or even whole peoples like societies and
nations may arbitrarily rule by enforced authority that an
opinion is deemed expert and hold to a rigid dogma that may even
be bad or ugly and wrong and false. It then falls to other
collections of humans to attempt an offer of connections and
corrections. The real truth indeed may never absolutely be known
for sure with exact certitude, but humans are driven to try and
guess at it the best way possible.
I am glad that

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