Boris writes:

> And I think we should not avoid any words in a
> serious discussion.
> Including 'art', 'aesthetic', 'Beauty' etc.
>
But Boris, I haven't advocated avoiding THOSE words. I said I suspect
disputants will never agree on the notions to be entertained with the   words
'real'
and 'reality'. I offer the following evidence: Immediately after I posted my
argument that those two words are prompted by -- and will stir --   too many
different and incompatible notions, Williams writes this line:

" I think a plan is a make believe script.  It is not
real until it's acted."

Notice: Someone could respond that a plan is a notion. Notions exist. They
are already "real". So a plan is "real". William will respond that he doesn't
mean "real" in that sense, and he will maintain his sense of "real" is the
better one ---   I say just avoid the word. Whatever one wants to "say" about
plans
can be conveyed using other less ambiguous and fruitlessly disputable words.




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