Mike -- I like your change of 'mind' to 'mind/body'. I wouldn't be surprised
to be told by biometricians that all kinds of physical changes take place when
we're exposed to a deeply moving piece of music or drama -- for starters, a
simple rise in heart-rate. "Physical" changes in the neurons of the brain I
take for granted since they figure to occur with EVERY experience, even the
drabbest.

I'm less sure about equating the "experience" I infer you're calling "beauty"
with images and thoughts as well as feelings. I dimly think of the occasioned
images and thoughts as being the "causes" of the feelings, but I have no
strong convictions about it.


In a message dated 5/9/08 3:46:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Beauty?
>
>
> > To which Mike Mallory responded:
> >
> > I suggest that beauty is a property (type of experience really) of humans
> > which we perceive (is stimulated by or associated by) in things.
> >
>
> Mike:  I am comfortable with the formulation below except for the reference
> to "minds" in the first sentence and "feeling" in the second.  I would
> substitute "mind/body" for "minds" and use a more inclusive term for
> "feeling" that would allow for feelings, thoughts, images or just about
> anything that would count as subjective state.  I believe beauty is a
> complex experience.  Subjects cover a wide range from sunsets and sculpture
> to mathematical proofs and ironic consequences.  So, beauty may appear as
> primarily emotional or affective, but it may also appear as conceptual and
> abstract.
>
> > "I suggest that beauty is a type of human experience that arises in our
> > minds
> > when we contemplate certain non-notional objects. In other words,
'beauty'
> > is
> > a label for a kind of feeling we get, just as 'pain' or 'itching' is."
>
>
> Mike Mallory
>
>
>




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