"Words (and images?) fly up, thoughts (feelings?) remain below; words without thoughts never to heaven go" How is it really possible to separate images and thoughts from feelings if they're all inter-inflective, as the neurologists say.
WC --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mike -- I like your change of 'mind' to 'mind/body'. > I wouldn't be surprised > to be told by biometricians that all kinds of > physical changes take place when > we're exposed to a deeply moving piece of music or > drama -- for starters, a > simple rise in heart-rate. "Physical" changes in the > neurons of the brain I > take for granted since they figure to occur with > EVERY experience, even the > drabbest. > > I'm less sure about equating the "experience" I > infer you're calling "beauty" > with images and thoughts as well as feelings. I > dimly think of the occasioned > images and thoughts as being the "causes" of the > feelings, but I have no > strong convictions about it. > > > In a message dated 5/9/08 3:46:05 PM, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Beauty? > > > > > > > To which Mike Mallory responded: > > > > > > I suggest that beauty is a property (type of > experience really) of humans > > > which we perceive (is stimulated by or > associated by) in things. > > > > > > > Mike: I am comfortable with the formulation below > except for the reference > > to "minds" in the first sentence and "feeling" in > the second. I would > > substitute "mind/body" for "minds" and use a more > inclusive term for > > "feeling" that would allow for feelings, thoughts, > images or just about > > anything that would count as subjective state. I > believe beauty is a > > complex experience. Subjects cover a wide range > from sunsets and sculpture > > to mathematical proofs and ironic consequences. > So, beauty may appear as > > primarily emotional or affective, but it may also > appear as conceptual and > > abstract. > > > > > "I suggest that beauty is a type of human > experience that arises in our > > > minds > > > when we contemplate certain non-notional > objects. In other words, > 'beauty' > > > is > > > a label for a kind of feeling we get, just as > 'pain' or 'itching' is." > > > > > > Mike Mallory > > > > > > > > > > > ************** > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists > on family > favorites at AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
