In a message dated 5/10/08 2:09:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> On the other hand how do we know what the thing is until we have found
> words to describe it?  Are there wordless thoughts? I don't think so.
>
For openers, I'd like to hear you describe what you have in mind with the
phrase "what the thing IS".

Meantime, I suspect you'll respond to Mando that pain is not a thought. Or
love, or terror, or fatigue, or...

The assertion that all thought is in words is flat-out nonsense.

Writers struggle to choose the best words -- how could that be if their
thoughts are in words?

How could you ever mis-speak yourself?

Rock-climbers, chefs, chess-players, even tennis-players -- they're thinking
all the time, just not with words.

But then you, like Hannah Arendt, may resort to a circular justification for
the assertion that all thinking is in words: "What those people are doing --
the chefs and chess players, and Mozart while composing, and painters while
painting, et al -- it isn't thinking." "Why not?" "Because thinking requires
words, silly!"





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