No but those are other ways of expressing thoughts.  The idea of a
thought minus any form of expressing it seems unthinkable to me.  What
would the thought be about?  One would have no way of saying.. So it
would be a thought without content?  Is there such a thing? A thought
about nothing - a 'nothing-thought'. Perhaps in the higher reaches of
Zen or something, but I leave that to the aficionados.

DA

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Armando Baeza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Derek, in the use of paint or clay, to achieve any  abstract design, does one
> have to use words?. Does one have to think of words while whistling?  Do
> dancers have to think of  words while dancing? Or playing a flute?
>
> mando
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Derek Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> For some reason I didn't get Cheerskep'e email re the above, but I saw
>> it on the archives.
>>
>> He writes in part:  'Writers struggle to choose the best words -- how
>> could that be if their
>> thoughts are in words?'
>>
>> I think the answer is they struggle precisely because the thought only
>> emerges fully once they sense the best words have been found. Until
>> then, it is a kind of embryo of a thought. 'Crime and Punishment' is
>> in a sense just one thought - which needed all those words to fully
>> reveal itself.  Dostoyevsky was not writing down a pre-thought
>> 'language-less' idea - like an amanuensis putting someone else's ideas
>> on paper.  He was exploring - discovering - his thought, as he wrote.
>> Like all artists.  I think we all do much the same in everyday life in
>> a less developed way.
>>
>> Wordless thoughts would be like 'a painter' who had never painted
>> anything.
>>
>> DA
>
>



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