RE:'Please don't keep us hanging in suspense, Derek. "Just tell us what were the necessary words for those thoughts (whether the Goyas were works of art or not)."
Er.. I don't think you are reading my posts, Chris. What have I said about judging whether works are art or not? By the way, this whole things about wordless thoughts is getting quite out of hand. I didn't undertake to give a running commentary of my - or anyone's - mental life. I made a specific philosophical (philosophical, not introspective) point: there are no thoughts without words to embody them. So far I have heard no *philosophical* argument to contradict that. Asking me 'what I thought' when I was looking at an exhibition - or playing chess, taking a shower, brushing my teeth, or whatever - is simply silly. What would it prove one way or the other? Re: 'Regarding my own post-facto ruminations on why I like/dislike something -- the > phrases used might well be appearing for the first time -- since they'll be > tailored for the intended audience/situation and will probably involve > comparisons that have just occurred to me" Given your repeated claims that one must have standards, criteria, etc, and your repeated insistence that I say what mine are (despite all I have said on the subject) this reply is, I have to say, a trifle disappointing. It looks, dare I say, a little 'evasive'. DA > Please don't keep us hanging in suspense, Derek. > > Just tell us what were the necessary words for those thoughts (whether the > Goyas were works of art or not). > > And if you present the words for your thoughts about a few different Goyas -- > we could see how different words embody the different mental activities that > would have accompanied your experience with each different piece. > > (hopefully -- the same words are not used each time -- otherwise, what kind > of > an embodiment would that be?) > > Regarding my own post-facto ruminations on why I like/dislike something -- > the > phrases used might well be appearing for the first time -- since they'll be > tailored for the intended audience/situation and will probably involve > comparisons that have just occurred to me. > _____________________________________________________________ > Click here to find the right stock, bonds, and mutual funds. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2211/fc/Ioyw6ijlewhvaTXwnYQqiFjnC35yo2 > ZmoxoA4MbE7QvfTD4obLZXoU/?count=1234567890 > > -- Derek Allan http://www.home.netspeed.com.au/derek.allan/default.htm
