RE: 'So -- I think we may freely speculate on why he feels it is
insufficient for
art to just please or satisfy -- and I propose that it's that same kind of
puritanical impulse that we find among fundamentalists of every stripe.

Not that he subscribes to any specific creed or philosophy -- just that he
shares that same perverse impulse to deny oneself the pleasures of life.'

Oh if only it were true!  How much would I save on wine and dining
out!  (I have managed to give up cigars - though that had nothing to
do with being puritannical.)

DA



On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Derek has never told us "the aim of art" - and I am quite certain that he
> never will.
>
> So -- I think we may freely speculate on why he feels it is insufficient for
> art to just please or satisfy -- and I propose that it's that same kind of
> puritanical impulse that we find among fundamentalists of every stripe.
>
> Not that he subscribes to any specific creed or philosophy -- just that he
> shares that same perverse impulse to deny oneself the pleasures of life.
>
>
> Why do some people abuse themselves in this way?
>
> I'm sure there are many possible cultural and personal explanations -- but
> rather than analysis -- I think the best therapy is simply a kind of positive
> reinforcement -- a  mantra to be repeated after every aesthetic experience --
> like:
>
>
> "this was really enjoyable - and I really deserved to enjoy it!"
>
> To be repeated as often as necessary.
>
>
> There should be no shame in accepting oneself as a "Sunday afternoon
> aesthete".  Presumably, if one is not being an aesthete the rest of the week
> -- it's only because of other responsibilities.
>
> I'm something of an aesthetic fanatic myself -- but some genres, like poetry
> or film,  I don't even visit one-a-week. (I think I'm watching about 5 movies
> a year - and some those I walk out on)
>
> But still -- I want poets and  film makers to dedicate their lives  to making
> things that will please me. (as I dedicate mine to those who love certain
> traditions of figure sculpture)
>
>
>
>                         *************
>
> Derek wrote:
>
> "My point related to the seriousness of art as an activity  - the fact
> that the aim of art is not just to 'please' or 'satisfy' (like a good
> wine or something)."
>
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