I wrote:
" Derek, two of the reasons you're so unrewarding to discuss things with are 
your inability to grasp the point of what the other fellow is saying, and your 
irrepressible impulse to say nay."

Derek replied by stating his position that to talk about "art giving 
'satisfaction' [or] 'pleasure' (or 'aesthetic pleasure') trivializes the 
function of 
art," He then concludes righteously, "I'm sorry if thinking this makes me an 
'unrewarding' to discuss things with, Cheerskep.   But it is my opinion. I 
can't 
change it just so some people will find me more rewarding."

This is yet another instance of Derek's inability to focus on and grasp what 
has just been said. At no time did I say Derek is unrewarding because of his 
opinions. I said he is unrewarding because of his inabilities -- and his 
impulse to reject.

"Inability" or simply "refusal"? Or the combination? Derek has at times been 
perversely interesting to argue with because it is a cerebral calisthenic to 
diagnose precisely where his thinking has gone awry. Indeed, all one can do is 
discern "where" -- not "why". At times it has seemed the point was simply too 
difficult for him to comprehend. But at other times, the point seemed 
unmistakably clear while, alas, impugning his thought-processes so damagingly 
that he 
was unable to accept the implications. Which is to say his "inability" perhaps 
stems from a combination of his lack of comprehending power plus his inner 
self's rejection of what is too awful to accept.   

In the past, there have been listers I was convinced were flatly dishonest. 
Like weasel-politicians, when cornered they knew it, and nimbly scrambled to 
reinterpret key words, change the subject, shift to "righteous" indignation -- 
knowingly seizing any way to escape. I can't charge Derek with that. It may be 
that the kind of "refusal" I am citing in him isn't voluntary, has nothing to 
do with logic, probably is not even what we'd call "conscious" -- like 
someone's refusal to accept that a loved one has died.

Still, as I've said before, I think Derek can ask penetrating questions -- 
albeit too often based on that impulse to say nay -- and he certainly knows far 
more about visual art than someone like me does. So I am glad he is on the 
forum. The trick is to know when his questions deserve to be taken seriously.   




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