Mmmm.  Well, at a quick glance (yes I know, you'll tell me he merits
more than that) he strikes me as rather in the art journalism mode and
not strictly into developing a full-blooded art theory - though I can
see the unconscious is very much part of this thinking.  I note - with
approval - that he doesn't seem to be anti the art museum (which it
seems rather a la mode to be at the moment).

I remember I read some of the 'End of Art' partly I think because he
had something to say about Malraux (!) though I cannot now remember
what. (Yes this is all rather vague I admit).

I shall pay him a little more attention when I have the time.

In the meantime, your description of the art education scene remains very grim!

DA



On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 6:01 PM, William Conger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know what you've read of Kuspit.  He's written
> many reviews, etc. that are directed to encapsulated
> issues.  Look past those. although they're usually
> pretty good.
>
>  I see him as a champion for serious art that
> continues in the Kandinsky and modernist thesis of
> indivudual creative art.  His approach can be very
> annoying to some and highly revealing to others.  He's
> a major critic and writer.  He often takes a
> psychoanalyic approach (trained in the field, plus 2
> PhDs) and centers on art as the expression of the
> unconscious.  I can't think of a specific sentence.
> Go read just one of his chapters re 20C art on
> www.artnet.com
>
> I figured you'd like his approach.  It's very
> "revolutionary" if a 100 yr. old idea can be still
> revolutionary.  I think yes, because the reasons are
> now stonger than ever.
>
>
> WC
> --- Derek Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> A dismal picture indeed.
>>
>> But your advice to 'go read the experts' leaves one
>> a little puzzled.
>> Which experts? (The only bits of Kuspit I have read,
>> for example, did
>> not impress me. Which of his points in particular do
>> you agree with?)
>>
>> DA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, William Conger
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Indeed I have seen how art schools and programs
>> have
>> > changed.  For 40 years I was in the thick of it,
>> not
>> > only through teaching but also as an administrator
>> and
>> > as one deeply involved in art curricula, art
>> faculty
>> > appointments and tenure reviews for several
>> leading
>> > schools, review of art programs, on committees at
>> the
>> > College Art Association, etc.  I was punch drunk
>> from
>> > being in the ring for so much time and still
>> keeping
>> > up with my work, a career, etc.
>> >
>> > I was a strong advocate of pluralism in art
>> programs,
>> > I mean championing the co-existence of many
>> traditions
>> > and appraches to art.  I was a stong advocate of
>> > getting top artists to teach by trusting that they
>> > would inspire students if they were genuinely
>> > interested in those students and not simply
>> looking to
>> > a shelter job.  You can believe that 98% of
>> artists
>> > disqualified themselves within minutes of the
>> first
>> > interveiw by saying they thought it most important
>> > that the job would leave them time for their own
>> work.
>> >  That means they weren't interested in a job but
>> only
>> > in the security it offers.  If one is an artist,
>> the
>> > time will be found no matter what the job
>> > requires...and every job involving the education
>> of
>> > others requires a selfless commitment.  I hired
>> and
>> > kept exceptional, internationally known artists
>> who
>> > are exceptional educators. But....there has been a
>> > coup in art programs.  The business artists have
>> taken
>> > over the academy and by that I mean the business
>> of
>> > self-sustaining art theory before practice, career
>> > theory trumping and devaluing practice (the post
>> > studio, deskilling revolution that puts talk above
>> > all.  Many of today's "top M.F.A. programs are
>> > dominated by that approach and the more
>> pluralistic
>> > studio centered, media centered artists are being
>> > pushed aside as they age (ageism is a very big
>> fashion
>> > in art programs).  Painter, printmakers,
>> sculptors,
>> > drawers, are out, ridiculed and marginalized.  I
>> > lament the situation.  The interests of my
>> generation
>> > in pluralistic art has proven to be naive.
>> >
>> > Now I believe, without intentionally being
>> extremist,
>> > the the new M.F.A.  grad is almost completely
>> > uneducated and unprepared  and unexamined and
>> > unqualified by anything except equally poor
>> teachers
>> > and artworldy people who have nothing but business
>> in
>> > mind. NO other graduate level program of study has
>> so
>> > little in the way of evaluation or basic standards
>> as
>> > the M.F.A. By the ordinary standards of other grad
>> > fields, advanced art study is a bogus field of
>> study.
>> >
>> > It is a worthless degree except it IS the passport
>> to
>> > the artworld.  People who can't draw a square box
>> are
>> > teaching undergraduate drawing ; people who don't
>> > paint at all, teach undergraduate painting; people
>> who
>> > are uneducated in art history teach art criticism;
>> > people who look to cultural theory for "new ideas"
>> > assume that the corpse of culture will birth new
>> life.
>> >  The student victims are encouraged by people who
>> > can't do and don't know but easily dazzle.
>> > Authoritative talk by a commercially successful
>> person
>> > can do that. That's why dealers and collectors are
>> > "visiting critics"  at art schools.  That's why
>> the
>> > art fairs have replaced the exhibition hall, the
>> > studio, the quiet gallery.
>> >
>> > I've been close to many graduate programs in all
>> > fields and I can say with confidence that ALL of
>> them
>> > excepting the art M.F.A. have rigorous standards
>> > requiring basic knowledge in their respective and
>> > allied fields.  Empty artists make empty art and
>> both
>> > are easily manipulated by those who prefer art not
>> to
>> > have content that might provoke serious thinking.
>> An

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