But if you respond to the request rather than discoursin gon it - we would
soon enough know where the difference may lay and potentially adjust  our
own responses to those differences -
Chair, Visual Arts and Technologies
The Cleveland Institute of Art
 



> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:31:20 EDT
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: "An 'aesthetic experience' MAKES the work 'art'"
> 
>> Kate writes:
>> 
> 
>> He has said that his concern is ontological. An ontology is-the formal
>> representations within a domain and the relationships within the domain. I
>> would
>> suggest that cheerskep is   insisting on defining the individuals of the
>> domain
>> before the domain itself has been tentatively defined. He might claim he is
>> doing this because many of the individuals have different meanings to
>> different
>> people and he wants to make sure which one is meant-he is   in some other
>> larger domain   using the same individuals,hovering over a vast blurry
>> field,unable to believe that his companions might only require common sense
>> to be
>> understood..   This requirement of defining meaning is functioning   as an
>> evasion  
>> of establishing the domain-evading the question in fact,in a fuzzy cloud of
>> only wanting to establish clear terms for our own sake.
>> Kate Sullivan
>> 
> Ah, such skepticism in one so young!
> 
> I'm not bent on "establishing clear terms for their own sake". I want to
> clarify to the extent possible the notions behind a speaker's key words for
> this
> reason: If they are fatally ambiguous, then all discussion of the alleged
> topic
> will be fruitless.
> 
> I maintain you're wrong to think everyone gets your notion when you write
> "understanding a thing". And I even go on to the impertinent suggestion that
> you
> don't have clear notion to begin with -- but we can't be sure until you
> describe what it is you have in mind.
> 
> "Common sense" will not lead a reader conjure the notion you have in mind. I
> used no more than common sense to come up immediately with four different
> interpretations of "understanding" -- and I guarantee I could up with several
> more
> easily.
> 
> The following description you provide of your notion behind the word
> 'ontology' is basically defective because it assumes as "given" many of the
> very
> elements that someone like me would reject:
> 
>  "An ontology is-the formal representations within a domain and the
> relationships within the domain. I would suggest that cheerskep is   insisting
> on
> defining the individuals of the domain
> before the domain itself has been tentatively defined."
> 
> Feh! Feh, I tell you!
> 
> 
> 
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