In a message dated 10/2/2008 5:54:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Frances muses with Luis and others... The limiting of graphic or plastic or tectonic space, by the cropping and scaling and closing of visible objects like depicted images, is indeed probably a mental act of gestalt perception and vision, but may not fully account for ancient works like primitive drawings and carvings and buildings that were put on rocks or in caves, where edges and frames may not actually exist in concrete fact. Frances, The selection of a particular cave setting, the cave itself and the location of the drawing/painting on the wall/ceiling is the perceptual cropping. It was a very intentional act to provide a special place for them. We would have to look at many drawing/painting scenarios and their context as it may have been at the time of their creation (highly difficult in many), to assess how far back perceptual cropping occurs. The deliberate imposition of peripheral restrictions on aesthetic forms like tones or marks can even be a block to understanding artistic goodness. In semiotics however the determination of semantic grounds and margins is required for signers to interpret the referents and meanings of objects or subjects that may be signified by signs. Such boundaries act as limiting spheres and domains and realms, whereby the signer can be brought into a conforming and controlling relation with the sign, so that some degree of normality is assured. There is also a key difference to note in pragmatist semiotics between a visible material object and a visual mental object. Furthermore, such semiotics holds that when a delimiting frame is present to sense, that it is itself a further sign that impacts on the signing and the signed and the signer. To be specific, a frame or boarder is mainly an "indexic" kind of sign, and not mainly an "iconic" or "symbolic" kind of sign, although these three semiotic properties will be present in all kinds of signs, regardless of their main dominance in any particular situation of semiosis. The issue of whether such peripheries are necessary subjective dispositions discovered by humans as inborn traits, or rather are arbitrary subjective conventions invented by humans as learned trails or trials, is another important thorn to deal with. I believe that we must already have the built-in cognitive systems to do or recognize anything that we now or in the future may do or recognize. Innate abilities/traits exist cognitively (hardwired potencies) long before we may become conscious, as a culture, of them. Luis Fontanills Architect **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
