I gripe enough about many listers' inadequacy in some other aspects of our
forum's discussions, so that I want in passing to say these informed
observations by William, Kate, Michael and others, conveying to me interesting
things
that I in my relative ignorance about their "genre" never knew, are a major
reward of the forum for me.   I am (too silently)   repeatedly grateful to you
guys
for them.

In a message dated 10/3/08 6:40:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> An interesting fact of paleolithic cave paintings is that the artists seem
> to have preferred bulges, cracks and other natural features that seem to
have
> suggested animal forms to them. Thus a bulge in the wall was chosen because
> with a few alterations it looked much like a bison or something. We all do
> this all the time when we see something we can't identify and say "it looks
> like..." except the Paleolithic artist added the necessary, convincing
detail. 
> In the early Renaissance, before anyone had a clue about Paleolithic
> anything, the myth grew up around Giotto, who was seen by following
generations of
> Renaissance artists as the father of the new naturalist art, that as a
shepherd
> he once saw a rock that looked to him like a turtle and he added a few marks
> to make it obvious.
>
> A perplexing (to us) feature of much Paleolithic cave art is the seeeming
> lack of regard artists had for previous painters in the same space.  Thus
> images overlap in apparently haphazard ways, or like gang graffiti that
purposely
> overpaints another gang's insignia.  Keep in mind that the cave paintings
> were made in the same caves on top of one another for tens of thousands of
> years! Thus one painting can be obscured by another that was painted
thousands of
> years later. So we don't know what went on re magic or cancellation of
> previous images or just not "seeing" what had been done before (just as we
ignore
> the ephemera of a few generations ago).  We just can't be sure of anything
and
> can't apply the compositional frame to Paleolithic art, not because they
> didn't have a frame in mind but because we can only speculate.
> WC
>
>




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