Michael -- My hardnosed position on so much of the strictly "philosophy" 
stuff on the forum ain't your fault (which I suspect you know).   It largely 
springs from my reaction to what every major philosopher has been taking for 
granted for generations. Two days ago in a posting for Geoff I megalomaniacally 
implied you listers are actually being exposed to some original and fundamental 
objections to "philosophy today". 

I have no illusions that everything I say has been sufficiently 
read-and-thought about by me, or is adequately expressed. For me, one of the 
great virtues 
of our often uncivil forum is that it's a place that forces one to think 
further-through, and to articulate defenses for, still inchoate ideas. 

However, it still pleasingly beguiles me to see listers, badgered by me so 
long, taking on board ideas that, if you were ever to retail them to 
professional philosophers you know, you'd probably be subjected to blinks and 
protests 
about your absurdity. And I know you'd now be able to defend some of the 
notions 
in ways that would make them sputter if you hung in there. (Just don't let 
them bring you to a halt with specious terms of art like 'epistemic', or 
dismissive remarks that you need to go read Gadamer or Rorty or Merleau-Ponty 
or. . 
.)

You say, " I concede that words have no animate power, they can't literally 
do anything, whether it's provoking or prodding or pointing."

But in that posting two days ago to Geoff I wrote:

"Say I, "ordinary language philosophy" has somewhat stalled because it has 
not shaken the thinking behind such phrases as "THE meanings of words" and "how 
words mean", and the use of the form, "What is X?", as in "What is reality?" 

"In particular am I astonished to find no philosopher addressing this basic 
implication of their general position: They all believe that words ("signs" 
etc) DO something. They believe "words" carry on the activity of "meaning", 
"signifying", "denoting" etc. Saul Kripke, perhaps the current "leading" living 
philosopher today, believes names "name", "pick out".   

"As far as I can tell, no one has ever looked closely at the notion that 
"words" carry out an "action". To me, that notion entails dizzying absurdities, 
and they've never been examined. The outlandish   idea that words DON'T act is 
so contrary to ingrained assumption, that not only is it not taken seriously, 
it's never considered at all.   

"If one can ever so wrench his mind as to consider it, it still takes a long 
time before its implications become apparent -- or, at any rate, it took MY 
slow mind a long time to see its impact on the fundaments of philosophy of 
language, mind, and metaphysics ("ontology")."

And here -- you've taken on board what even Saul Kripke didn't figure out. 
If/when I have time, I'd like to show the forum some the thinking in the single 
piece celebrated as the start of modern "philosophy of language". It's by 
Gottlob Frege and it is totally muddled by his assumptions of "signifying" 
action, 
"reference", "referents", "sense", "meaning" and other terms I've hammered at 
here. Believe it, philosophers today are still muddled in many similar ways.  
   

Sure, in such talk I display megalomania, but that doesn't scare me. I'm 
smart enough to realize how many things my brain is not equipped to do well. 
When 
I was young and getting relatively "astronomic" grades and aptitude-test 
scores, I thought I could do anything, but my adult life has been an education 
in 
how wrong I was. It's not bullshit when I say I am awed by what people like you 
and Kate and William and Boris and Mando and other listers can do -- 
effectively with your "head" (and hand). It's something I wanted to do as a boy 
and 
well into my teens -- and I just didn't have your innate equipment. I know 
enough about what they do to be sure I couldn't be a great mathematician, 
molecular 
biologist, chemist, musician, architect -- the list is enormous.    

But I've also learned that in certain other, narrow, ways I have "nothing to 
be afraid of" from anyone. I was in an industry where every single executive 
in the U.S., England, and Europe would have said my strategy was wrong. It 
wasn't, theirs were. 

For what it's worth, nothing I ever did in my industry struck me as anything 
more than "common sense". It took none of the "inspiration", gifts, the 
what-we-want-to-call "genius" needed for the greatest work in the "arts" and 
sciences. Very little of the "scholarly work" in the rest of "humanities" or 
"social 
studies" or "business" has ever struck me as requiring those traits.    

Nor, say I, does philosophy. I won't do "great philosophy" now -- I'm too 
old.   I don't have the time left. If I megalomaniacally think I can still have 
some original ideas in narrow parts of philosophy, after twenty-five-hundred 
years of smart people being at it, I do it feeling my ideas are just common 
sense (supported by my conviction I can see outright errors in the now-numerous 
philosophers I've read seriously). 

If I express wonder at the fact that philosophers haven't thought of some of 
these things, the focus of my wonder is on the zany fact there are so many 
assumptions they've simply accepted without ever   questioning.   (For what 
it's 
worth I have, off the forum, had colloquies with professional philosophers. I 
have encountered sputter, and a startling inability to take on board, to 
question, some of the stuff you non-professionals have managed to wrap your 
minds 
around -- with sporadic tenacity. As a CEO, I was always wary about hiring 
MBA's, because their Business School indoctrinations seemed to make it 
impossible 
for them to entertain novel notions.)

I shall now go back to being a narrow schoolmaster on some aspects of our 
forum discussion. For some years now all you guys have been teaching me. I 
claim 
I have some things to teach you, but I'm fully aware they are very largely 
irrelevant to the astonishing creative work you do. 

(But wouldn't it be fun to think this tiny forum is involved in 
rationcinations that may still be discussed generations from now?)



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