Cheerskep says:

 Many professional
> "thinkers", as well as laymen,
> continue to feel that the "stuff" of
> consciousness -- our thoughts and
> feelings --
> though it may be correlated in time with the physical
> world, is not identical
> with it. A "feeling", they would say, is not
> "material".

To posit that a feeling is not identical with the material world is to assume 
that there are two separate things, such as the Is of materiality and the IS of 
mentality. But what if we remove the physical aspects of feeling, the nerves, 
vascular, and neural activities?  Answer: The result is that the associated 
feelings vanish.  One replies, yes, but what of phantom limbs, etc?  Answer: 
This can be attributed to neural pathway memories and areas of the brain 
"responsible for" the sensations of the missing part.  They are usually 
"adopted by adjacent brain areas or otherwise assimilated. Then one replies, 
ok, but isn't this simply cause and effect and can't a cause be separate from 
the effect? Answewr:  Yes, and no.  There a looping sort of activity between 
brain and nerves so that each feeds the other in time -- as the brain sends 
signals based on previous experiences to the nerves so do the nerves send their 
signals to the brain in a continual monitoring
 flow.  Apparently sensation is not just mental stuff -- etherial Cartesian 
sould-stuff -- but is directly and explicitly a body-brain thing, not a 
mind-body thing.

The problem comes down to brain-body workings vs. mind-body workings.  If we 
restrict ourselves to a brain-body view then there can't be a causal 
relationship and no separate IS, one for body, one for brain. This view leads 
to the impossibility of consciousness. (Scientists love to say it "ain't 
there".)   But if we insist on a mind-body view then we are dealing with 
consciousness on the one hand and brain-body on the other. In this case we are 
assuming, or forced to assume, that some supra-brain "manager" is consciousness 
but we can't yet identify what it "IS" (that's the etherial IS).  Maybe this is 
where we get to Husserl's Transcendental Phenomnenology by which we 
imaginatively form a material self (like that "manager" constituent I just 
referred to) that is consciousness.  Then we have an "as-if" IS (an etherial IS 
being imagined as a material IS).

The problem we are left with is simply this: Even if we can assert two types of 
IS (imitating a Catesian mind-body split), we need to "lie" to ourselves in 
doing so because we need to treat our consciousness as if it were a real thing. 
 Thus, I need to pretend that my consciousness is "myself managing my 
body-brain" in order to manifest consciousness. Maybe that's why in everyday 
life we don't bother to distinguish between the two IS conditions, and are 
satisfied to simply say the mental IS and the object IS are one and the same, 
when they are not, except when we're conscious.  Ugh, What a mess!  Not even 
Husserl, very difficult for me,  was clear on this.  

What becomes really interesting is the possibility that we can imagine that of 
which we are NOT conscious, like a disembodied soul, (can we?)or that part of 
our brain that monitors some crucial bodily functions. Thus consciousness can 
imagine its own unconsciousness.  Or is that just another level of 
transcendental phenomenology looking upon an imaginatively embodied 
consciousness, ad infinitum? 

So that's one reason I rely on the catch-all term, belief.  Belief does ot 
require reason or proofs but stands in for consciousness as the etherial IS, 
the IS that forms the other IS by pretending to like it. 

Philosophers to the rescue, please.

WC

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